LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY

20 March 2010

[SE Mom]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.

[Just Lori]

I thought maybe at the last minute, you decided to go. It does look like a great rally!

[TornadoAlley3]

[Jane Long]

Great pic!! A keeper =)

[Lmo56]

And the Dems are planning NOT to put the Senate bill on the floor for a vote.

See my post # 593 ...

My interpretation of Article I, Section 7 and the Supreme Court case [post #593] is that each bill must have the yeas and nays recorded for it [although SCOTUS has yet to decide this question].

If the "Slaughter Rule" is used, they are folding the Senate Bill into the House Concurrent Resolution, voting on the HCR [that "deems" the Senate bill to have passed], then stripping the Senate bill from the HCR, and then sending to the President for signature.

So, the Senate bill [with NO recorded yeas or nays] ends up on the Preisdent's desk.

Seems to violate article I, Section 7.

[monkapotamus]

[redshawk]

They just said that now the RATS will make a formal vote?

Confirm? Source from WashPo?

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

Wow! A lot of people turned out to support this historic bill. Oh, wait, they're AGAINST the bill.

Are there any supporters? Anywhere?

[HonestConservative]

50 yes’s for the rule change, No no’s yet.

[Dinah Lord]

Be still my beating heart.

[monkapotamus]

[zzeeman]

Yep, I heard it too. It was something about this is how "rights for our citizen's" get started. Small things at first, then on to bigger things (entitlements) ala Social Security, welfare, medicaid/care etc., I believe.

Yes that was it, I wish I could remember which rat it was. The fact that a (supposed) US member of congress can speak like this in public and not be tarred and feathered is not a good sign, but it is very illuminating.

on CSPAN-2: OK george, we'll hook you up on that system right away, maybe a lobotomy is a treatment option!

[Just Lori]

She got smart with another rep earlier. Called him “the bluebird of happiness”.

He didn’t appreciate it.

[CaptSkip]

Dreier says the Wash Post just published a story that the Dem leadership will NOT DO DEEM & PASS??

Dreier asks...Whus Up!?"

[PMAS]

“House leaders plan separate health vote, rejecting ‘deem and pass’ -Wahington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/20/AR2010032001651.html?hpid=topnews

[Dinah Lord]

I’ve been looking for the WaPo article - can’t find it yet.

[Lmo56]

“There ain’t no rules here, we’re trying to accomplish something. . . .All this talk about rules. . . .When the deal goes down . . . we make ‘em up as we go along.”

SCOTUS is REALLY gonna like to hear that ...

[TornadoAlley3]

[redshawk]

Great pic of God Fearing Patriots.
Thanks for sharing. It is now my new desktop photo.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

To: Jane Long I can't remember which rat it was, but there was one on TV yesterday talking about "every time we give a right to the American people by spending their money, not ours, it is like this..."

There, better.

[johniegrad]

If he ever stuck a finger in my face like that, I would permanently remove it from his hand.