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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.


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To: Dinah Lord

what are you watching?


1,321 posted on 03/20/2010 7:54:21 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: SE Mom
Kingaatax's daily prayer thread
1,322 posted on 03/20/2010 7:54:23 PM PDT by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: Dinah Lord

Yep. It was good. Every time I see creepy Perlmutter I want to hurl a brick at the tv.


1,323 posted on 03/20/2010 7:55:09 PM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: Dinah Lord

I’ll see if I can get it,thanks.


1,324 posted on 03/20/2010 7:55:12 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

It’s the House Rules Committee meeting. They’ve been in session since 10 am EST and it is a beaut.

You can find it on CSPAN2


1,325 posted on 03/20/2010 7:55:17 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Dinah Lord

SHE is 80 YEARS OLD?

What is she doing wearing the eye makeup of the 18 year old hoochie mama????

- - - - — -

She’s on the floor HOOKIN’


1,326 posted on 03/20/2010 7:55:35 PM PDT by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: keepitreal

1,327 posted on 03/20/2010 7:56:32 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: keepitreal

Notice how Ed’s hair is tousled. Did you catch what he just said about Colorado malpractice and did he just abstain?


1,328 posted on 03/20/2010 7:56:34 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Dinah Lord

I don’t know, but I find her voice strangely interesting She probably could have a good career as a character actress.


1,329 posted on 03/20/2010 7:56:35 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: onyx

here is the ever-young Slaughter http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx


1,330 posted on 03/20/2010 7:58:08 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Dinah Lord

I missed it - had a little one escape from bed and had to put her back!


1,331 posted on 03/20/2010 7:58:23 PM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Just voted down malpractice reform, so the dumbos’ lawyer friends are safe.

Would have saved $50 billion a year.


1,332 posted on 03/20/2010 7:58:47 PM PDT by CherylMc (Here's your sign dumbocrats)
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To: PghBaldy

Washington D.C., Mar 20, 2010 / 09:41 pm (CNA).- In a final, urgent plea to prevent the passage of the current form of the Senate health care bill, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) on Saturday evening sent a letter to Congressmen asking them to vote “no.”

“For decades,” the letter says, “the United States Catholic bishops have supported universal health care. The Catholic Church teaches that health care is a basic human right, essential for human life and dignity.”

“Our community of faith,” the bishops continue, “provides health care to millions, purchases health care for tens of thousands and addresses the failings of our health care system in our parishes, emergency rooms and shelters. This is why we as bishops continue to insist that health care reform which truly protects the life, dignity, consciences and health of all is a moral imperative and an urgent national priority.”

Nevertheless, they add, “we are convinced that the Senate legislation now presented to the House of Representatives on a ‘take it or leave it’ basis sadly fails this test and ought to be opposed.”

The letter is signed by Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, Chairman of the Committee of Pro-life Activities; Bishop William F. Murphy, Chairman of the Committee on Domestic Justice and Human Development; and Bishop John C. Wester, Chairman of the Committee on Migration.

“Why do we take this position, when we have a long record of support for health care reform?” the USCCB letter asks, answering that the fundamental objections can be summarized in two points.

First, the bishops argue that health care reform “must protect life and conscience, not threaten them.” The Senate bill “extends abortion coverage, allows federal funds to pay for elective abortions (for example, through a new appropriation for services at Community Health Centers that bypasses the Hyde amendment), and denies adequate conscience protection to individuals and institutions.”

“Simply put,” the letter to Representatives continues, “health care reform ought to continue to apply both parts of the Hyde amendment, no more and no less.”

The bishops also argue that, despite claims to the contrary, “the status quo prohibits the federal government from funding or facilitating plans that include elective abortion. The Senate bill clearly violates this prohibition by providing subsidies to purchase such plans.”

“While the Senate provides for one plan without abortion coverage in each exchange, those who select another plan in an exchange to better meet the special needs of their families will be required to pay a separate mandatory abortion fee into a fund exclusively for abortions. This new federal requirement is a far more direct imposition on the consciences of those who do not wish to pay for the destruction of unborn human life than anything currently in federal law.”

Thus the bishops insist that “it is not those who require that the Hyde Amendment be fully applied who are obstructing reform, since this is the law of the land and the will of the American people.”

“Rather, those who insist on expanding federal participation in abortion, require people to pay for other people’s abortions, and refuse to incorporate essential conscience protections (both within and beyond the abortion context) are threatening genuine reform. With conscience protection as with abortion funding, our goal is simply to preserve the status quo,” the letter argues.

The second point of objection, the USCCB says, is that “universal coverage should be truly universal. People should never be denied coverage because they can’t afford it, because of where they live or work, or because of where they come from and when they got here.”

“The Senate bill would not only continue current law that denies legal immigrants access to Medicaid for five years, but also prohibit undocumented immigrants from buying insurance for their families in the exchanges using their own money. These provisions could leave immigrants and their families worse off, and also hurt the public health of our nation,” the USCCB explains.

The bishops regret that the House leadership is “ignoring the pleas of pro-life members for essential changes in the legislation.”

“Apparently they will not even try to address the serious problems on abortion funding, conscience protection and fair treatment of immigrants.”

“We are bishops, not politicians, policy experts or legislative tacticians. We are also pastors, teachers, and citizens. At this point of decision, we cannot compromise on basic moral principles. We can only urge — and hope and pray — that the House of Representatives will still find the will and the means to adopt health care reform that protects the life, dignity, conscience and health of all.

“The legislation the House adopted, while not perfect, came closer to meeting these criteria. The Senate legislation simply does not meet them,” the bishops say.

“With deep regret, but clear in our moral judgment, we are compelled to continue to urge House members to oppose the Senate bill unless these fundamental flaws are remedied. At this critical moment, we urge Representatives to take the steps necessary to ensure that health care reform respects the life and dignity of all, from conception to natural death,” the letter concludes.

catholicnewsagency.com


1,333 posted on 03/20/2010 7:58:49 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: PghBaldy
Now the Dems are giving the illegal immigrants carte blanche. They've voted down this amendment;

Would require that all individuals under Medicaid have to demonstrate their identity and citizenship.

1,334 posted on 03/20/2010 7:58:54 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: SE Mom

LOL, SE...and I’ve done EVERYTHING I can to avoid this for the last hour or so (considering..I’ve been jumping from website to thread since 8am this morning (and I think both my dog and husband want to divorce me). I am realllllllly frazzled and need an infusion of medication (non govt health care type).


1,335 posted on 03/20/2010 7:59:58 PM PDT by Sea2ShiningSea
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To: Dinah Lord

Nice to see idiot Polis on the Rules Committee too. Both these Bozos embarrass CO


1,336 posted on 03/20/2010 7:59:59 PM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: PghBaldy

LAST amendment now. Next to last was to have Prez ad heads of other branches of govt (Legis & Judicial) to have same healthcare...


1,337 posted on 03/20/2010 8:00:43 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Dinah Lord

and sadly Lincoln Diaz-B... kept harping how he was against it....


1,338 posted on 03/20/2010 8:01:51 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Dinah Lord
It just kills me how there is absolutely no discussion on any of these amendments. Now, Sessions is asking for floor debates of ten minutes each of #105, 92, 93, 94. Interesting, they are amendments offered by Sheila Jackson Lee. A full list of amendments can be found here
1,339 posted on 03/20/2010 8:02:13 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Dinah Lord

Loved Polis saying it would cost important healthcare dollars to enforce the id provision. Gee, ask the person registering the patient to take a copy of an id - terribly expensive./s


1,340 posted on 03/20/2010 8:02:42 PM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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