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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.


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To: Amityschild

Amanda Huggenkiss? Large Democrat donor? Google her name....


1,221 posted on 03/20/2010 5:28:39 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Does not carry over.


1,222 posted on 03/20/2010 5:30:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Sea2ShiningSea
From The Hayride

Update 3-20, 6:45 PM: Supposedly, Rep. Diana DeGette, the leader of the pro-choice caucus in the House, has signed off on the proposed Executive Order. If she’s OK with it, then Stupak probably isn’t, meaning that its design is to peel a few of his group off. At this point, we have 206 NO votes that are absolutely rock solid. Of the eleven non-Stupak undecided members, I think we get Nye, Boucher, Pomeroy, and Davis. If we could do that, we would still win with six votes from the Stupak group. Though I am no longer confidently predicting the defeat of the bill, it isn’t over by a long shot.

Update 3-20, 6:28 PM: One of the more curious situations is that of Rep. Lincoln Davis of Tennessee. He voted NO last time and represents a district that is 14 points more Republican than the country as a whole. He’s not “undecided;” he has simply refused to give anyone any public indication of how he intends to vote. Is he refusing to say anything because he’s pledged his vote to Pelosi and he doesn’t want to have to hear it from his constituents, or is he refusing because he doesn’t want union sit-ins staged in his office like the one that Rep. Altmire got after announcing that he would vote no? Because he voted no last time and because of the strong GOP tilt to his district, I would have to bet on the latter, but we’ll see.

Update 3-20, 6:17 PM: Will Pomeroy flip our way? North Dakota has a small population, so Rep. Earl Pomeroy represents the entire state. Now, North Dakota is about ten points more Republican than the country as a whole. A few hours ago, the North Dakota GOP Convention selected State Rep. Rick Berg, the former majority leader of the state house, to run against Pomeroy. A Rasmussen poll last month showed Berg beating Pomeroy 46% to 40%, which was apparently a key factor in today’s decision by the Convention. If Pomeroy votes yes, he is headed for certain defeat. As of a couple hours ago, Pomeroy was still telling reporters that he was “undecided.”

Sounds good, so why is FOX saying it's a done deal for passage? Also, Code Red at 211 each and 9 undecided, the above two are in the undecided column at Code Red. If that's true, then need 3 more. . .

1,223 posted on 03/20/2010 5:31:16 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: Art in Idaho
Code Red has Berry as undecided. The Hill has him leaning no.

It's going to be wild tomorrow.

1,224 posted on 03/20/2010 5:37:19 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: Art in Idaho

I don’t know why Fox has been so off...I suppose I could speculate but I couldn’t stand listening to them anymore today. Perhaps....because they were the only ones covering the rally today they decided to make themselves more “balanced” by leaning more optimistic toward the dem vote.
Who knows??
Anyway...as to the other updates, I am cautiously optimistic but then who knows what can happen moment to moment. We just have to pray that the pro lifers are true to their convictions.


1,225 posted on 03/20/2010 5:37:27 PM PDT by Sea2ShiningSea
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To: TornadoAlley3

notice the green slime on the inside of her elbow LOL!


1,226 posted on 03/20/2010 5:41:21 PM PDT by jenk (REMEMBER MASSACHUSETTS!!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Its a done deal as I see it ..
tomorrow will be the date that marks the end of the USA as we know it ..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


1,227 posted on 03/20/2010 5:44:18 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Art in Idaho

FOX has their leftie crew on, on weekends. Trying to give a boost to the tyrants.

A pox on FOX!


1,228 posted on 03/20/2010 5:44:29 PM PDT by Palladin (The Obama administration is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Tribune7
Code Red has Berry as undecided. The Hill has him leaning no. It's going to be wild tomorrow.

It sure is. Keep firing away with the phone calls, emails and Fax's. Keep it up even after the count!

1,229 posted on 03/20/2010 5:45:01 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: Tribune7

Marian Berry is a back stabbing liar. He will vote YES. He is retiring so he doesn’t care.


1,230 posted on 03/20/2010 5:45:29 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Sea2ShiningSea
We just have to pray that the pro lifers are true to their convictions.

Yup, lock en' load with calls in and prayers up. . .

1,231 posted on 03/20/2010 5:48:22 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: kcvl

Hey, I thought the same of Altmire.


1,232 posted on 03/20/2010 5:59:34 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: All
From Hayride: Senior Dem staffer says abortion/executive order deliberations will take place tonight at the White House. Stupak won’t be there… Dem staffer says “this still isn’t nailed down”

How the hell can an executive order make this whole mess right? If they don't have the votes, then it fails. If they pull some executive order trick to pass it, this country will explode, and I mean explode!

1,233 posted on 03/20/2010 5:59:36 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: Art in Idaho
All Night Long [Robert Costa - NRO]

"Senior Dem staffer says abortion/executive order deliberations will take place tonight at the White House. Stupak won't be there... Dem staffer says "this still isn't nailed down"

If they had the votes they wouldn't need Stupak, would they?

1,234 posted on 03/20/2010 5:59:39 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: Art in Idaho

From The Hayride

Update 3-20, 6:45 PM: Supposedly, Rep. Diana DeGette, the leader of the pro-choice caucus in the House, has signed off on the proposed Executive Order. If she’s OK with it, then Stupak probably isn’t, meaning that its design is to peel a few of his group off. At this point, we have 206 NO votes that are absolutely rock solid. Of the eleven non-Stupak undecided members, I think we get Nye, Boucher, Pomeroy, and Davis. If we could do that, we would still win with six votes from the Stupak group. Though I am no longer confidently predicting the defeat of the bill, it isn’t over by a long shot.

Update 3-20, 6:28 PM: One of the more curious situations is that of Rep. Lincoln Davis of Tennessee. He voted NO last time and represents a district that is 14 points more Republican than the country as a whole. He’s not “undecided;” he has simply refused to give anyone any public indication of how he intends to vote. Is he refusing to say anything because he’s pledged his vote to Pelosi and he doesn’t want to have to hear it from his constituents, or is he refusing because he doesn’t want union sit-ins staged in his office like the one that Rep. Altmire got after announcing that he would vote no? Because he voted no last time and because of the strong GOP tilt to his district, I would have to bet on the latter, but we’ll see.

Update 3-20, 6:17 PM: Will Pomeroy flip our way? North Dakota has a small population, so Rep. Earl Pomeroy represents the entire state. Now, North Dakota is about ten points more Republican than the country as a whole. A few hours ago, the North Dakota GOP Convention selected State Rep. Rick Berg, the former majority leader of the state house, to run against Pomeroy. A Rasmussen poll last month showed Berg beating Pomeroy 46% to 40%, which was apparently a key factor in today’s decision by the Convention. If Pomeroy votes yes, he is headed for certain defeat. As of a couple hours ago, Pomeroy was still telling reporters that he was “undecided.”

Sounds good, so why is FOX saying it’s a done deal for passage? Also, Code Red at 211 each and 9 undecided, the above two are in the undecided column at Code Red. If that’s true, then need 3 more. . .


Great update; first one tonight that covered it all...


1,235 posted on 03/20/2010 6:00:51 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Those women in that shot look masculinated...yulk...what an embarrassment to the fem side of life!


1,236 posted on 03/20/2010 6:05:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: TornadoAlley3
Someone in that picture doesn't even look human anymore.


1,237 posted on 03/20/2010 6:08:43 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: Art in Idaho
I think what they are saying is that Obama will promise to sign an executive order prohibiting money to be used for funding abortions after the bill is signed.

Now, I don't know exactly how they think that will work because the money is directed to be spent as such according to the law he would have just signed and he can't use an executive order to overturn a law.

Of course, if they can get enough of Stupak's group to believe it -- or pretend to believe it -- it won't matter.

1,238 posted on 03/20/2010 6:11:26 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: Tribune7

There is no end to their tyranny. Justice will out in the end. Resist! Resist! Resist! You know in your heart what you should do.


1,239 posted on 03/20/2010 6:13:58 PM PDT by hal ogen
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To: Tribune7
I think what they are saying is that Obama will promise to sign an executive order prohibiting money to be used for funding abortions after the bill is signed.

If he does that, he'll lose the 40+ Dem Women who will either vote No or walk out. . . .

1,240 posted on 03/20/2010 6:21:47 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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