Posted on 03/16/2010 6:46:26 AM PDT by CWW
According to The Hill, there are currently 37 definite or leaning no votes by DEMS and 58 undecideds. The DEMS would have to win ALL undecided votes to eek out a 216-215 win. Of the 58 undecideds, however, the following 9 are leaning “no”. If any of these 9 vote no, then the bill dies.
Jason Altmire (Pa.) * (N) Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) told McClatchy he's targeting Altmire, who many view as key to passage. Altmire said on Fox News he has an "open mind." Voted no in committee and on floor, but bottom line is his yes vote is gettable.
Brian Baird (Wash.) (N) Retiring member who bucked party on Iraq war surge.
John Boccieri (Ohio) * (N) In a bad sign for the White House, Boccieri did not appear with President Barack Obama at his March 15 speech in Ohio. Boccieri, a GOP target, told Foxnews.com, "I'm not afraid to cast a tough vote..." Clyburn has publicly said he is leaning on Boccieri, whose vote could go a long way in determining whether healthcare reform will pass.
Bart Gordon (Tenn.) * (N) Retiring committee chairman. Clyburn especially wants his vote.
Suzanne Kosmas (Fla.) (N) Easily won her race in 2008; her 2010 race will be tighter.
Betsy Markey (Colo.) (N) Was a late no last time. In early March, Markey declined to be interviewed by Denver Post on her position on bill. Likely target for Democratic leaders.
Scott Murphy (N.Y.) (N) Reelection race looks good, for now. Told local media he might vote yes.
Glenn Nye (Va.) (N) In toss-up race
John Tanner (Tenn.) * (N) House deputy whip not running for reelection, but he still will need to be convinced to get to yes. Voted no in committee and on floor
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
ITs 10 06 What did Maffei say?
Each one of them just wants to be the last member to switch his vote to yes, because that means they’ll get the biggest bribe when they do so.
“I can’t imagine they will bring it to the floor for a vote if they don’t have the votes to pass it. Why would they?”
I wouldn't expect that they would.
But I wonder about what would happen if a modest, but firming majority of folks decided that they were going to vote “no,” and the leadership refused to bring the bill to the floor for a vote. The issue would continue to linger on, continuing to harm Democrats, especially Democrats who are vulnerable this autumn. And the longer the issue goes unresolved, the worse it is for these folks.
Bart Stupak has been going around saying that members just want this issue to go away, and soon.
One wonders whether the anti-Obamacare Democrats would join with the Republicans to petition for discharge of the bill. Of course, if a majority of the House petitions for discharge, my understanding is that the bill goes on the Discharge Calendar and becomes a matter of privileged business.
In this way, if the anti-Obamacare Dems really want to kill the beast, to get it out of the way before the election season begins in earnest, it could be done.
Just a thought.
sitetest
"Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law"
The bill must receive an up or down vote!!!
This is why the US Sup. Ct. struck down the line-item veto.
I have wondered if any such offers have been made. Why the hell is Stupak a pro-life democrat anyway? He needs to leave the party of death if he is pro-life. This might be the way.
How many Dems tell the truth? I am more than a little skeptical.
all cave.
Well she wouldn't call for a vote, too humiliating. The talking heads on Fox seemed to think no call for a vote by Sunday and its dead...for now. Santorium ,who I respect shares some of the negativity here , he thinks unless we have 40 proclaimed, rock solid Democrat NOs , it's not looking good. I don't share his opinion, but we will see pretty soon.
And if the no vote count gets that high, it’s possible that Pelosi will postpone the vote. Rather than risk the embarrassment of a losing vote, they might delay it further, saying that they are still meeting with members, addressing concerns, and all the other behind the scenes stuff that happens. They might need more time for Rahm to get in people’s faces and twist arms and all that.
If they won’t pass this one, they certainly won’t pass the other. It is even worse for them if they use the Slaughter Rule because all they will be passing are the bribes that got them to vote yes, meanwhile passing the legistlation they don’t particularly care for. Any way you look at it, it looks bad for them, and in the case of the slaughter rule, REALLY bad.
Man the phones, people.
Correction: "people". There's no "-to-be" about them.
Can’t find a report. The Hill said it would be 10:00 but they haven’t provided an update yet.
No word yet, The Hill said 10:00 announcement but no update.
Good suggestion.
If any of them are retiring, consider it a yes vote. They will be easy to buy off.
That is brilliant!
Exactly how many times has this thing been pronounced dead? It’s zombie legislation that won’t die completely until November.
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