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Ryan: Dems Ramming "Shell" HC Bill Through Committee Monday
The American Spectator ^ | 3.11.10 | Philip Klein

Posted on 03/11/2010 3:49:03 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion

Rep. Paul Ryan says that Democrats are ready to ram a "shell" health care bill through the Budget Committee, on which he serves as ranking Republican member, to use as a vehicle to impose national health care.

In a phone interview with TAS Thursday afternoon, Ryan said that he expects Democrats to begin the complex process on Monday, under which they would have the Budget Committee approve a phantom bill by midnight, which they will then send over to the Rules Committee. At that point, the Rules Committee will strip out all of the language in the phantom bill, and insert the changes to the Senate bill that Democrats have negotiated.

"They don't have the votes right now, but they're creating the vehicle so that they can airdrop in whatever changes they want," Ryan said.

He said that Republicans are outnumbered 2-to-1 on his committee and don't have the votes to stop the bill there. Democrats will also be able to prevent Republicans from offering any amendments, but GOP members will be able to offer "motions to instruct" the Rules Committee, that Ryan said will be used highlight problems with the "unprecedented" step that Democrats are taking.

He said he expected Democrats to dust off last year's health care bills from the Education and Labor and Ways and Means Committees, to use as the vehicle for reconciliation changes.

He also warned against focusing too much on the reconciliation process in the Senate. "Reconciliation is a distraction," he said. "Once the House passes the Senate bill we have the massive new entitlement."

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; communism; democrats; healthcare; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; palin; phantomhealthcare; socialism; socialisthealthcare
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To: bigoil

Uh, if it were that easy, I do think Mr. Ryan would have done that by now.


81 posted on 03/11/2010 5:03:25 PM PST by fightinJAG (Massa = Obambi's poster boy for repealing DADT)
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To: Mr. Wright

This is another reason why we have to stop Obambicare. That puts us in a much stronger position to continue to crush his Marxist agenda.

We have to fight til the end. The only way out is THROUGH!


82 posted on 03/11/2010 5:04:40 PM PST by fightinJAG (Massa = Obambi's poster boy for repealing DADT)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

May? Seven Days?


83 posted on 03/11/2010 5:05:21 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Mr. Wright
“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”
—NORMAN THOMAS

Great quote & so true!

84 posted on 03/11/2010 5:06:04 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: glock rocks

And we agree! So, let’s fight the battle, our country, our way of life, our America! It’s all in jeopardy. The right of liberty is threatened. Why did we fight a revolution? I suppose <250 of democracy needs a tazar now and then, now’s our time. The dems don’t realize, you don’t mess with our freedoms. We’re way past the point of ‘no more’. We’ve hit our breaking point.


85 posted on 03/11/2010 5:06:48 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Normally, I’d say that was OTT. But, no. It’s dead on. At some point, when laws are being “enacted” without our representatives voting on them, yes, it is martial law.

Somebody today on the radio, Rasmussen, I think, on Hannity, said there hasn’t been this big a gap between the governed and the government since the Colonists rebelled against King George. God, he’s right.

The Colonists formed a new country over the idea of “no taxation without representation.” Today we are at just “NO REPRESENTATION PERIOD”?

What is going on here?


86 posted on 03/11/2010 5:07:13 PM PST by fightinJAG (Massa = Obambi's poster boy for repealing DADT)
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To: TJC

Stalling is a very important tactic!


87 posted on 03/11/2010 5:07:48 PM PST by fightinJAG (Massa = Obambi's poster boy for repealing DADT)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

I think the Parliamentarian nixed the Slaughter Solution. Don’t recall for sure.


88 posted on 03/11/2010 5:09:12 PM PST by fightinJAG (Massa = Obambi's poster boy for repealing DADT)
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To: All

Ryan is supposed to be on Hannity tonight. He may explain this further and talk about what we can do to stop it.


89 posted on 03/11/2010 5:09:45 PM PST by fightinJAG (Massa = Obambi's poster boy for repealing DADT)
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To: La Enchiladita

Sen. Jim DeMint came up with that plan after doing a lot of research and study of the rules. But it is a way, if the Repubs actually kept offering amendments, to stall *reconciliation* indefinitely. AT least that’s my undrestanding (lord, this is complicated).

Whether it applies to this shell game Ryan is describing, I don’t know.


90 posted on 03/11/2010 5:11:27 PM PST by fightinJAG (Massa = Obambi's poster boy for repealing DADT)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ya think?


91 posted on 03/11/2010 5:11:54 PM PST by fightinJAG (Massa = Obambi's poster boy for repealing DADT)
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To: La Enchiladita
Prez can sign with invisible pen

Thast's the one he keeps in his invisible empty suit? The one he's wearing in these pictures?


92 posted on 03/11/2010 5:12:31 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (U.S. Citizen since 1946: “Made in the USA, by proud American workers!")
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To: fightinJAG

Our government (dems) has decided they’ll rule, people drool. Only one mistake, so sorry, no way, we won’t accept it. We’re mad as hell and we’re not going to take it anymore. I guess that’s a big oops they overlooked. We’re not rolling over. We left Europe because of that. 250 years isn’t that long ago in the history of Western Civ. Some of us ARE teaching our children our history.


93 posted on 03/11/2010 5:13:49 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: Bryan24
You are missing a crucial point - They don’t care. They are going for broke. They believe that if they can get it passed that it can’t/won’t be rescinded.

They BELIEVE (as fervently as we believe in a balanced budget) that National Healthcare is in the nation’s best interest.

Your first point, I agree with.

Your second point, I think is irrelevant. They may believe it's in the nation's best interest, but only because they believe that INFINITE RAT RULE is in the nation's best interest. This is nothing but a grab for PERPETUAL POWER.

94 posted on 03/11/2010 5:13:56 PM PST by fightinJAG (Massa = Obambi's poster boy for repealing DADT)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Excellent!

Tweet this as well, those of you on Twitter.


95 posted on 03/11/2010 5:15:03 PM PST by fightinJAG (Massa = Obambi's poster boy for repealing DADT)
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To: potlatch

96 posted on 03/11/2010 5:17:52 PM PST by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . Sarah Palin can spell corpsmen . . . . . . .)
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To: SunkenCiv
Gosh, it's almost as if the left regards rules, procedures, laws, and even the Constitution as an obstacle to be twisted around.

Ohhhhh, shame on you! You make These Honorable Congressmen, good friends of John McCain one & all, sound unAmerican!

97 posted on 03/11/2010 5:20:59 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (U.S. Citizen since 1946: “Made in the USA, by proud American workers!")
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To: Bryan24

We had people on here think it was a great idea for them to be in charge as well to teach Republicans a lesson. Even to this day we have people attacking Republicans when they have been standing up and make few comments against the Democrats.

Makes you wonder about that mentality but they are the first to say dump the RINO’s. Personally I would rather dump someone who wants to teach Republicans a lesson and is always critizing them while giving the Dems a pass and by not voting gave us the Progressive Democrats.


98 posted on 03/11/2010 5:31:42 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Rick Perry - TX Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: historyrepeatz
BYE BYE DEMS in 2010.

Look for a blowout of Biblical proportions in the early morning of Nov 3, 2010. The Dems will spin it as a 'win' - remember Nov 2009? Reminds me of Jonestown 1978.
99 posted on 03/11/2010 5:33:22 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Bryan24
They BELIEVE (as fervently as we believe in a balanced budget) that National Healthcare is in the nation’s best interest.

No, they don't. As Dennis Prager pointed out in a recent column, these are leftists and they hate every aspect of American society and wish to destroy it. With national healthcare, they have everyone by the short hairs, don't you understand?

100 posted on 03/11/2010 5:38:32 PM PST by OldPossum
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