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Ryan: Dems Ramming "Shell" HC Bill Through Committee Monday
The American Spectator ^ | 3.11.10 | Philip Klein

Posted on 03/11/2010 3:49:03 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion

Rep. Paul Ryan says that Democrats are ready to ram a "shell" health care bill through the Budget Committee, on which he serves as ranking Republican member, to use as a vehicle to impose national health care.

In a phone interview with TAS Thursday afternoon, Ryan said that he expects Democrats to begin the complex process on Monday, under which they would have the Budget Committee approve a phantom bill by midnight, which they will then send over to the Rules Committee. At that point, the Rules Committee will strip out all of the language in the phantom bill, and insert the changes to the Senate bill that Democrats have negotiated.

"They don't have the votes right now, but they're creating the vehicle so that they can airdrop in whatever changes they want," Ryan said.

He said that Republicans are outnumbered 2-to-1 on his committee and don't have the votes to stop the bill there. Democrats will also be able to prevent Republicans from offering any amendments, but GOP members will be able to offer "motions to instruct" the Rules Committee, that Ryan said will be used highlight problems with the "unprecedented" step that Democrats are taking.

He said he expected Democrats to dust off last year's health care bills from the Education and Labor and Ways and Means Committees, to use as the vehicle for reconciliation changes.

He also warned against focusing too much on the reconciliation process in the Senate. "Reconciliation is a distraction," he said. "Once the House passes the Senate bill we have the massive new entitlement."

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


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KEYWORDS: 111th; communism; democrats; healthcare; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; palin; phantomhealthcare; socialism; socialisthealthcare
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To: Mr. Wright

Juan McCain/Lindsay Graham-nesty are working with Obama and Schumer on amnesty.

Don’t forget that Romney, Kyl, Flake, Newt, Thompson, Pail and other RINO rats are campaigning for McCain.


201 posted on 03/11/2010 9:19:57 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: cubreporter

“Been saying Novena/S every single night. We DO need Divine Intervention.”

If I could remember how to say a rosary I would, so the best I can do is pray, Dear God, please save our country. What we need now is a miracle.


202 posted on 03/11/2010 9:24:00 PM PST by TxAnn56
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To: taxesareforever
replace the lost revenue with a Medicare payroll tax on unearned income.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but how can you have a payroll tax on unearned income? Or has "payroll" simply become a synonym for "we grab it before you even get your hands on it"?

203 posted on 03/11/2010 9:26:56 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Prole
I will believe the Rats are finished the day after the November Election.

Until that day, my faith in the ability of the Electorate to get their heads out of their collective a$$e$ and see what's going on in this Country is tepid at best.

I just had a friend, a business owner to boot, tell me that he's giving Obama another six months. I looked at him in disbelief and said, to do what, turn us in to the Soviet Union?

He then went on to tell me how “intelligent” Obama was and that he couldn't have voted for McCain because he thought Palin was so stupid. I informed him that Palin is Einstein compared to Biden, and she wiped the floor with him in the Debate. He agreed Biden is an idiot, but Obama’s intelligence ruled the day.

I just rolled my eyes and left after that one.

204 posted on 03/11/2010 9:44:16 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat Party...)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Marshall?


205 posted on 03/11/2010 9:51:33 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (If we will not be governed by God, we must be governed by tyrants. -- William Penn)
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To: fightinJAG
The Colonists formed a new country over the idea of “no taxation without representation.” Today we are at just “NO REPRESENTATION PERIOD”?

Well said! No representation and corruption ta' boot! Time for Revolution II !

206 posted on 03/11/2010 9:52:38 PM PST by Art in Idaho
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To: mo

I’ll do that, mo. Yes, I am proud of him. And just as proud and thankful for all our military men and women.

I get mighty depressed these days with the path our country is on. Never thought I’d see the day where so many of our fellow Americans have forgotten the values and virtues that made our country great.


207 posted on 03/11/2010 10:03:32 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: firebrand

I believe they mean to grab monies off of retirement accounts. Dems like to hide behind feel good words.


208 posted on 03/11/2010 11:25:31 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...

ping!


209 posted on 03/11/2010 11:33:59 PM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: what's up
I believe you are right....it does seem there is a heavenly battle being played out in our congress...the lines keep getting drawn and moved...amazingly so..bizarre at that.
Heard Pelosi told someone to go to h*ll recently.

It has been said to the degree one has to fight and resist evil simply evidences the degree and measure of what one stands to gain by continuing that resistance. That is what we are seeing...there is more at stake here than I think the wisest of us realize.

210 posted on 03/11/2010 11:35:20 PM PST by caww
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To: taxesareforever
Well, I know they are going to try to do this. Why call it a "payroll" tax though? It doesn't make me feel good when I totally misuse a word. It's not even a euphemism. It's just that there is no other word for it so they borrowed that one. They should say "automatically deducted" or "automatic" to show that the previous owner of the money has no control over what happens to it.
211 posted on 03/11/2010 11:44:00 PM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

They don’t want to expose their hand. They are such a despicable lot.


212 posted on 03/12/2010 12:26:09 AM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: historyrepeatz

Yes, but will we be able to undo it?


213 posted on 03/12/2010 3:17:42 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Bookmark for another insane Obamanation.


214 posted on 03/12/2010 5:49:45 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("May his days be few; may another take his office. " (Psalms 109:8))
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To: historyrepeatz

No kidding. Bring it on!!! The dems think the American public will forget when they pass this piece of crud. We won’t!!!


215 posted on 03/12/2010 5:59:56 AM PST by hstacey (An ounce of pretension is worth a pound of manure...)
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To: marstegreg
Can this stand as consitutional? Can this survive scutiny? What legally can be done to stop this, this is stretching rules to the breaking point? I think my head will explode.

That's exactly what I intended to post, so thanks!

216 posted on 03/12/2010 6:26:14 AM PST by American Quilter (Really, really scared the Dems will succeed in passing Obamacare.)
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To: TxAnn56

Go to a religious store. Buy a little booklet on the rosary. It is EASY. You NEVER really forget. Then get on those rosaries....:)


217 posted on 03/12/2010 7:05:52 AM PST by cubreporter (Scott Brown turned it all around. The people CAN and DID make a difference!!!)
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To: Mygirlsmom

I have faith it will be OK>


218 posted on 03/12/2010 7:06:17 AM PST by cubreporter (Scott Brown turned it all around. The people CAN and DID make a difference!!!)
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To: Indy Pendance

Absolutely. That’s why the opposition tries to take God out of everything. If you don’t have rules to follow...religious or otherwise...you can behave any way you want without guilt. EXCEPT...that’s what they will find out is wrong...on so wrong. They will find out one day and I hope I am not standing close by when they do. Pray, pray, pray...it’s the answer. Over and over and over again.


219 posted on 03/12/2010 7:08:32 AM PST by cubreporter (Scott Brown turned it all around. The people CAN and DID make a difference!!!)
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To: American Quilter

I hope to God some one comes up with a way of stopping this on constitutional/legal ground. I am beyond nervous. I have been calling the congressmen/women all morning. Right now, I don’t know what to do, but I know I have to do something.


220 posted on 03/12/2010 7:27:58 AM PST by marstegreg
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