Posted on 03/05/2010 9:49:59 AM PST by Cardhu
Vatican chorister sacked for allegedly procuring male prostitutes for papal gentleman-in-waiting.
The Vatican was today rocked by a sex scandal reaching into Pope Benedict's household after a chorister was sacked for allegedly procuring male prostitutes for a papal gentleman-in-waiting.
Angelo Balducci, a Gentleman of His Holiness, was caught by police on a wiretap allegedly negotiating with Thomas Chinedu Ehiem, a 29-year-old Vatican chorister, over the specific physical details of men he wanted brought to him. Transcripts in the possession of the Guardian suggest that numerous men may have been procured for Balducci, at least one of whom was studying for the priesthood.
The explosive claims about Balducci's private life have caused grave embarrassment to the Vatican, which has yet to publicly comment on the affair.
While Catholicism does not condemn homosexuality outright, its teaching is that homosexual acts "are intrinsically disordered". The Catechism of the Catholic church states unequivocally: "Under no circumstances can they be approved."
Balducci was arrested on 10 February, suspected of involvement in widespread corruption. A senior Italian government official, he is alleged to have to steered public works contracts towards favoured bidders. He has not been charged.
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No, no, no! When he said he wanted “bigger, longer and uncut”, he just wanted to watch the South Park movie.
So what’s your explanation for public schools, where far more sexual abuse of kids takes place?
No, it’s not just the MSM, it’s all sorts of people trying to defend the Catholic church from within who are writing the books on these perverted matters. Amazon is filled with Catholics describing these homosexual problems.
The Catholic Church was infiltrated by homosexuals and pedophiles centuries ago. They are trying to keep a lid on it but one of the greatest scandals in human history is about to see the light of day.
You can always count on the British media's incompetence (and dishonesty) when it comes to reporting on anything touching the Catholic Church.
1. Catholicism DOES condemn homosexuality outright.
Catholicism does not condemn HOMOSEXUALS outright, UNLESS they engage in homosexual acts.
It is probably all that you say - but what a strange place to contact your own procurer unless he is a well know go-to guy among the cognoscenti for that sort of thing.
no - what the church teaches is that having the homosexual attraction itself is not “sinful” unless it is acted upon.
Similarly - being tempted to drink too much alcohol is not, itself, a sin - unless acted upon.
The homosexuality is considered a disordered nature - something that causes internal struggle, but is not considered “sinful” until the person engages in the behavior.
It is an honorific title given to someone who is allowed to volunteer his services as an usher at papal events for a brief period each year.
A “gentiluomo” is most definitely NOT a member of the papal household.
The Guardian has its journalistic head up its posterior.
2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
In quick terms:
Someone who is tempted to commit sodomy is not committing a sin by being afflicted by such temptation.
Someone who commits sodomy sins gravely.
So your thinking is that Priests turn to young boys because they can’t marry? So why are there never any young girls molested?
I would be interesting to see his list of specifacations - we would know what is HOT and what is NOT on the Italian scene.
So the newspaper got that screwed up. You’ve just described how Protestants also look at homosexuals versus homosexual acts. No problem there, then, and that seems the right way to interpret the Bible, too.
Thank you, sir.
However, you posted nothing from the Catholic church saying that sodomy was a sin, if done.
The Guardian is a notorious far-left rag. It's probably more of a far-left rag than any daily paper in the US. It's politically closer to something like Mother Jones or The Nation.
You can -- for the most part -- read what the Guardian says, and then believe the opposite.
Catholic teaching is that all sexual acts, except for marital intercourse open to life, are “gravely disordered”. That's moral theologian-speak for, “If you do them freely and know what you're doing, they're seriously sinful.”
Are these two of the 'shovel ready' jobs Obama created?
easy. love them. they are sick (disordered). they should not act on their disordered urges. pray they can be helped. that’s about all.
tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
Anything "contrary to the natural law" is objectively a sin, by definition.
The catechism uses the technical term "disordered" rather than "sin" because they're talking about acts in objective terms. When an individual freely and willfully does a "disordered act", that's sin.
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