Posted on 02/25/2010 3:24:35 AM PST by Man50D
Why?
She is an adult and says that she is a progressive, and that she is very proud when "old people" don't know what that is.
Personally, I'd say she is involved in political theater, and that leaves her open for comment.
Well Gee! John is using **his** campaign money to finally get this eligibility issue out to the public.
THANK YOU, JOHN!!!
Now the entire country will be asking about Obama’s eligibility. The conclusion reached will be that it is NUTZ for Obama to be lawyering up to prevent the release of **common** documents that unanointed Americans must produce routinely. The American people will be very curious as to why Obama would do this.
Also...The American people will not be amused that Obama has wasted and misused U.S. attorney time and distracted them from their important job of keeping us safe! This is especially so that when U.S. attorneys were in court for Obama plots were being made to shoot our soldiers on their bases and recruitment centers and to blow planes out of the sky.
In his race for Senator of AZ, John McCain is hammering birthers?
WTF?
Well this guy needs to go for a lot of reasons, but I want him gone primarily because he still thinks he is the head of the party.
I agree. It’s the old “don’t think about elephants” exercise. I can see McCain thinking it was a good idea but cannot conceive of any competent campaign person promoting this.
They seriously misread the dynamics of the issue. As you said, many people simply do not want to pursue the issue. That does not necessarily mean they think it’s entirely whackjob stuff. They just would rather not go there. McCain making it a campaign issues forces them to think about it. It forces it out of the closet and into the public discourse.
Yeah, he really strikes me as someone that is really full of himself. Time to knock the old leggs out from under that ego.
That may help him in the General, but doesnt he have a strong rival in the Primary?
I actually thought the ad was GREAT!!!! Thanks for the advertising the Constitutional crisis, McLame! He doesn’t realize that this issue does NOT break in his favor, but against him - because he opposes it.
Yes.
And the fact that government bureaucrats are committing crimes in order to cover for him is problematic also. The failure of law enforcement to investigate crimes reported also tells us where the country is.
Right now government, media, and law enforcement are one great big dysfunctional family screwing the whole nation. McCain doesn’t “get” that because he’s right in the middle of that dysfunctional family and has been for what? 32 years?
The biggest issue America faces today is government corruption. Until we get a handle on that we’ll be putting out little fires (”little” like cap and tax, healthcare takeover, financial takeover, etc) one after the other but never putting out the blaze. The only reason they can do these “little” attacks against the Constitution is because they are a lawless mob and we have no REAL way to petition our government for a redress of grievances.
That needs to change.
But McCain will never understand that because he is part of the problem.
More on why Obama’s eligibility matters at http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com
The dem playbook is to hammer this issue while trying to portray “tea partiers” as violent.
They should soon learn that by bringing the issue up they are going to force a fight - and there are enough facts now that they can never win an out-and-out fight on this issue.
See http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/
The Hawaii DOH has now TWICE indirectly confirmed that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery - once by admitting Obama’s BC is amended and not noted on the COLB, and once by admitting that the cert numbers are given in their office, which shows that the Factcheck certificate number and filing date are incompatible with each other and the Nordyke BC’s.
A friend of mine sent me this via email this AM:
“This was snooped before being E-Mailed
YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF!!!!!
With the results being sent to Eric Holder - it
will be buried~
Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro,
baby Maya Soetoro, and 9 year old Barry Soetoro.
This registration document, made available
on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in
Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.
Name: Barry Soetoro
Religion: Islam
Nationality: Indonesian
How did this little INDONESIAN Muslim child - Barry Soetoro,
(A.K.A. Barack Obama) get around the issue of nationality to become President of the United States of America ?
PART 2:
n a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College ..
The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry
Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California . The transcript shows that
Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document provides the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking - that he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the United States-necessary to be President of these United States . Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya , here we see that there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship.. Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records.
Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still on-going but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter.
LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS - THE MEDIA WON’T!”
Note that I did not include the photos which came with the email.
Is this new?
Is the birther issue getting legs?
Catch this:
Lawmakers to candidates: Prove ‘natural born’ status
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=126062
Arizona committee forwards proposal calling for submission of birth certificates
[Will the after-birthers complain?]
Great way to look at it. [Grin.]
Here comes my two cents ...
Ro-thunder: “I was thinking about that yesterday. Two of my kids came home, discussing lessons on George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln. I thought about it a minute, knowing the place of Lincoln’s birth, he went to school, then law school (where we have papers, decisions, court records of him practicing); then George Washington and the ‘cherry tree story’ (which is probably false, but a good story), but you still know about his birth, his growing up, school, friends, papers etc. This was 150-200 years ago. However, someone born less than 50 years ago, and there seems to be no 100% bullet proof identifying trace of him, and he’s not the President. Just amazing to me.”
Joseph Farah: “I say, if it’s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.”
[Regardless of the man, what about the words? Does anyone honestly think those words are unreasonable?]
Poll — 58% of Republicans question Obama’s Constitutional Qualification
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0709/58_of_GOP_not_suredont_beleive_Obama_born_in_US.html
[I agree that a KOS poll isn’t the most accurate, but it’s the only one I know of reg. republican %.]
Maelstorm: “There is no need for Glenn Beck, Breitbart, or anyone to defend a President who refuses to release his education records, his medical records, and yes he still hasn’t released a long form birth certificate.”
CaptainK: “All jobs require detailed information about your past. Why should the most important job in the nation get a pass?”
Some people say that other issues are ‘bigger fish to fry’, such as nationalizing entire industries.
Uncle Chip: “Do you see a connection between overlooking this little “technicality” [certifigate] and his takeover of private industry??? Unlawful does as unlawful is.” [Bingo. That’s why conservatives end up uniting if they think hard enough.]
Obama Trusters should be proud to be on the side of el McCain. McCain tries to belittle Hayworth for standing for the truth. I’m glad that I see eye-to-eye with Hayworth on this matter [as with every other matter I know of]. Are we to throw Hayworth under the bus? And protect McCain? Mock truth, and there’s no telling who you might hurt.
Unity will never be brought through allowing the left to divide us, and RINOs are delighted to throw conservatives under the bus. McCain is typical of that — cussing out conservatives like a sailor and at the same time, he bows and scrapes like a toady at the leftist court. Creeps like him thrive from internal discord.
Regarding the overall strategy of conservative muckraking in general, I posted something here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2457300/posts?page=3#3
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I’m a birther? Yeah, I’m pro-motherhood. I’d be embarrassed trying to call people ‘birthers’, the perfect word for anyone who thinks birth is obscene and abortion is cool. That said, I’d rather be a birther than a sucker [who gives cover to brain suckers, partial birth abortion].
Some people tell us to focus on other issues. I would rather they said ‘prioritize’. Focus means ‘telescopic site’, which is lousy when you have a lot of moving targets.
Next post coming ... the nitty-gritty.
Obama, the Mystery Man.
He’s too secretive. He might be other peoples’ president, but I don’t think of him as mine until he proves he’s constitutionally qualified.
Tigerseye has a list of just how secretive the left’s president is:
0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?
1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service? This supposed revelation of 0’s SS records has been debunked. Check with tigerseye who showed me this list.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham’s divorce decree.
24 Why did Barack Obama resign from the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why did Michelle Obama resign from the Illinois bar after only about four years of practice and where are all of the relevant documents?
[Compare this with someone’s background check to visit the White House or to work in a missile plant.]
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Zero has chosen a very interesting law firm to represent him in certifigate:
Perkins Coie
http://yesbuthowever.com/perkins-coie-massachusetts-8136453
“The firm has successfully navigated close elections for Minnesota Senator Al Franken [recounted until it was ‘right’], Washington Governor Christine Gregoire and helped bend [break] election laws in New Jersey to benefit Senator Frank Lautenberg in 2002.”
“New Coach” Comparison:
Such a question to remain festering is inexcusable in a leader. A team sees some guy walking into the locker room claiming to be their new coach. Next to the ‘coach’ is a mobster and a thug [Ayers and Rezco].
How much should they trust this ‘coach’? Is it their fault if they wonder?
The coach says, “I was sent here by the other team.” [Annenberg vetting Obama]. Such ‘leadership’.
The [Terrorist loving] Hippies Who “Certified” Obama
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2454752/posts?page=36#36
http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/AnnenbergFactCheckers.htm
Obama was vetted by Annenberg. But they have a history of being cronies and sugerdaddies for Obama AND unrepentent terrorist, Bill Ayers. Obama and the terrorist had Annenberg offices near each other. Annenberg is the best the DNC could come up with to vet their candidate or Commander in Chief. Bill Ayers was a sworn enemy of US soldiers.
[And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. There is a huge army of intellectuals who signed a petition on behalf of the unrepentent terrorist. Bill Ayers, the bomb terrorist who recently said he “didn’t do enough”, and exhaustively reported to be the ghost writer and friend of Obama.]
Yeah, so don’t vet a DNC candidate unless you are his sugardaddy and crony with terrorists.
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The coach hires a lawyer to hide his past from the team.
*** Note that not all of Zero’s law tab to Perkins Coie is related to certifigate. ***
Obama law tab up to $1.4 million
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=106138
“He used DOJ attorneys! These attorneys are paid by the U.S. taxpayer! And...He distracted these DOJ attorneys from the important work of keeping Americans safe!” — wintertime
Not that the actual amount matters. McCain showed his birth certificate and that ended the controversy. Perhaps a lawyer would want someone to stay in the bunker, but this is our nation’s leader and our military’s leader. He must EARN our trust and respect. Only a dictator can demand subservience.
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Some reasonable critics of ‘birthers’ try to alienate our most extreme elements. That is a good thing. We must thin the herd. So long as the critics are respectful toward reasonable certifigate hawks, I will attempt to be the same. But then there are the snarky “dignity imps” who are more worried about their image than the truth. They impishly pile on like sidekicks of a bully. They fear being on the losing side. They calculate. And they will never get along with hardworking conservative muckrakers.
Not knowing it, the sarcastic “Dignity Imps” are like a coward in the foxhole who stabs his buddy in the back and surrenders. Either that, or he’s a hideous combination of mental laziness and self righteous judgmentality.
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To understand why conservative leaders act so strangely about BO’s Certifigate scandal, you need to first understand history.
No Jail Time for Sandy Bergler
http://musing-minds.com/2005/09/08/no-jail-time-for-sandy-bergler
The American Spectator : Code Word Bergler
http://spectator.org/archives/2004/07/26/code-word-bergler
Politics of the past — President Bush [God love him] was giving the democrat party life support. Truth was “too dangerous to touch”. What is the thanks Bush gets? A vice president Biden who wants to hold war trials for the previous administration. Don’t play with rattlesnakes — end their ability to harm you. Defang them, even if it means their political destruction.
Did you ever hear the great uproar by the GOP over Clinton pardoning a crack dealer for cash?
Another Pardon, Another Controversy
http://speakout.com/activism/news/5653-1.html
Hugh Rodham [Hillary’s brother] received a contingency fee in connection with a pardon ... a scheme to distribute 800 pounds of crack cocaine [snip]
Imagine if Bush had pardoned a crack dealer for cash. How quiet would the DNC and the Drive-bys have been about it? The RNC is so issues-focused, they are obsessed about giving the DNC cover. It’s apparently been that way ever since Joe MacArthy. Conservative leaders have always held their punches. They rationalize away their fear. Back in William F. Buckley’s day, that was necessary. It’s a different world now with copy-paste, Control + A — web-communication and twitter.
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A deeper look at certifigate:
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html
http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2454803/posts?page=82#82
WND’s archive of news reports on Certifigate
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98546
Recent Link Blasts on Certifigate by SatinDoll:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2447475/posts?page=268#268
Root Link for Feb 2010:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2447475/posts?page=299#299
Catch this:
McCain’s state is sounding a little “birther” like Hayworth:
Lawmakers to candidates: Prove ‘natural born’ status
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=126062
Arizona committee forwards proposal calling for submission of birth certificates
[Will the after-birthers complain?]
Next, an important quote of BIOCHEMKY
Speaking of “forgery” [supposedly the soft underbelly of being a birther] ...
BIOCHEMKY:
I’ll tell you what. I think the idea that the Obama campaign would have used Obama’s sister’s as a template makes sense. That is of course conjecture.
However, here’s what I know about it otherwise. I have read the following:
(a) What was placed in photocopy form on the Obama campaign’s website is a CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH (COLB) which is an item that is provided not at the time of one’s birth, but at any other point afterward
(b) What is prepared at birth by the medical personnel and the administrators of the hospital facility is called a VAULT copy of one’s BIRTH CERTIFICATE (BC). This item is kept by the hospital in their records department. An abbreviated version of the valult copy of the BC is what is actually given to the baby’s parents. The vault copy of the BC stays at the hospital.
(c) The photocoy of the fraudulent COLB on the Obama campaign’s website has the following physical problems:
(1) it has no raised seal impressed (not foiled, just raised) on it visible on the back as it should
(2) it has an emblem on the front that is supposed to be the seal of the state of Hawaii, but this emblem differs quite a bit from the authentic seal of Hawaii
(3) it has a nonauthentic border around the bottom and right hand side when looking at the back of it
(4) it does not cite the attending physician nor carry that individual’s signature
(5) i believe I also read that somehow a person was able to read the registration number on it or at least find out the number of digits in the registration number on it (that is blacked out with heavily black marker), however the information derived is not in agreement with the number sequences that were being given out from the hospital claimed in Aug. of 1961 or there was a different number of digits than should be present.
Personally, I don’t know why someone just doesn’t get ahold of the airline records that will confirm that Stanley Ann Dunham traveled to kenya at about 8 months along and was too far along to be allowed on the plane when she attempted to return to the U.S. to give birth and, thus, she did not return from Kenya until after Obama’s claimed date of birth.
Prove where Stanley Ann Dunham was on Aug. 4, 1961 and by default you also prove where Obama was born.
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I put the forged birth certificate in the criminal column; he defrauded the American people to help him ascend to the highest office in the land, a position for which he is ineligible.
He began by suspending the protections of our constitution (not being a natural born citizen) and he has been chipping away at the bill of rights and each ammendment a little at a time each and evey day.
I wouldn’t “shelve” the issue, I would simply refer to it as often as possible as what it is: a fabricated certification of live birth (COLB) and leave it at that.
Whether that COLB form is a forgery is actually a mute point. This is because: Obama’s father was a British citizen at the time of Obama’s birth and, thus, he has no way of claiming that he is a natural born citizen (born of two U.S. citizen parents within the geographic U.S.).
At the time of his birth the only citizenship Obama had received was that from his father, British. This is because although Obama’s mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth, she had not lived in the U.S. for 5 years after her 14th birthday. This was required at the time in order for a citizen to pass on their citizenship when a child was born outside the country. Obama’s mother was only 18 (not 19) at the time Obama was born.
This last part I stated better in the argument laid out below (with links noted):
Obama was born at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961 at the Coast Provincial General Hospital in the town of Mombasa in the Coast Province of the British colony of Kenya (http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2009/090909/FrntPgObamaEligibility.html). At the time of Obama’s birth, his father, Barack Hussein Obama, was a British citizen (Kenya did not gain its independence from Britain until 1963) and his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was a United States citizen. According to Federal law, however, as the sole U.S. citizen parent Obama’s mother was not old enough and did not reside in the United States long enough after age 14 to qualify Obama as a United States citizen. The particulars are as follows.
According to Title 3, Chap. 1 of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (McCarran-Walter Act, Public Law No. 82-414, 66 Stat. 163) that was passed on June 27, 1952 and applies to persons of birth between December 24, 1952 and November 14, 1986 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/8693236/1952-Immigration-and-Nationality-Act-Title3-Chapter1?secret_password=&autodown=pdf), a child born outside of the United States to one citizen parent could acquire United States citizenship if the United States citizen parent had been physically present in the United States for ten (10) years prior to the child’s birth and five (5) of those years were after the parent had reached the age of fourteen.
Obama’s mother was born November 29, 1942 and, thus, she was only 18 years old when Obama was born in Kenya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Ann_Dunham). As such, Obama’s mother did not meet the age-dependent residency requirements for her child to receive United States citizenship from her. Therefore, Obama is not a United States citizen. Furthermore, he is most certainly not a natural born U.S. citizen which is required of him to be as specified in Article II, section 1 clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution in order to hold the office of President or Vice President of the United States (http://www.house.gov/house/Constitution/Constitution.html).
BIOCHEMKY
“McCain ad defends Obama”
JD needs to get a copy of the McCain’s SR511 and confront McCain with it whenever the issue comes up.
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