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Alum: Debate for Climategate should be held (AccuWeather's Joe Bastardi)
Daily Collegian (PSU) ^ | February 24, 2010 | Edgar Ramirez

Posted on 02/24/2010 4:12:12 PM PST by neverdem

An AccuWeather meteorologist said a debate could inform the public of Climategate issues.


PHOTO: Kelsey Morris
Joe Bastardi, meteorologist for AccuWeather in State College, talks about climate change and the 9-12 project.

Having a debate is the solution AccuWeather meteorologist Joe Bastardi believes will help bring some answers towards the current "Climategate" controversy.

Bastardi, Class of 1978, spoke to a crowd of about 80 people at the Ramada Inn Conference Center, 1450 S. Atherton St., about Penn State professor Michael Mann and climate change. The event was hosted by the 9-12 Project of Central Pennsylvania.

Bastardi, who has worked for AccuWeather for about 32 years, said in a way he feels "sympathetic" about the issue and asked the audience members several times to look through Mann's perspective.

Bastardi said despite what the majority of people who are against Mann believe, he does not recommend that the university should suspend him and instead should work to have a debate among those involved in the current dispute.

"This is by no means the solution to end 'Climategate,' " Bastardi said. "I'm befuddled though that no one's suggested that a debate take place. What are you afraid of if you know you are right?"

Bastardi said a debate would be the right way to go so that the public would be informed on the issues and facts.

Samuel Settle, chairman of Penn State's chapter of Young Americans for Freedom (YAF), said he enjoyed Bastardi's speech because of the balance he brought.

"I really liked the idea he brought of the open forums debate and how he focused on the criticism of the work itself rather than the investigation," Settle said.

Bastardi's recommendations come on the same day that Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., announced that he would seek help from government agencies such as the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) to conduct a further investigation into the "Climategate" issue, and most specifically, Mann.

Matt Dempsey, communications director for the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, confirmed that Inhofe would go as far as to reach the U.S. Department of Justice if the government agencies would not conduct an investigation.

"Senator Inhofe has been involved in the debate for 10 years," Dempsey said. "[Inhofe's] been the leading skeptic in the U.S. Senate on climate change and he's documented a number of cases where the science was questionable. And so as 'Climategate' shows, it reveals what Inhofe has been saying all along is true."

Dempsey said Inhofe fears the amount of "manipulated data" should raise concern among the institutions involved, including Penn State.

"We were hoping that Mann would step down from his position as the investigation continues, or that the university would seek a temporary suspension," Dempsey said.

"Inhofe has a strong respect for Penn State University, especially with the school deciding to moving on to a full investigation," Dempsey said. "It's probably not as far as it should have gone, but we respect the work they're doing."

Penn State spokeswoman Annemarie Mountz wrote in an e-mail that an internal inquiry "is moving into the investigatory stage, which is the next step in the University's process for reviewing research conduct."

She was unable to comment on Inhofe's statements.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: climategate

1 posted on 02/24/2010 4:12:13 PM PST by neverdem
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


2 posted on 02/24/2010 4:14:32 PM PST by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


4 posted on 02/24/2010 4:24:14 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: neverdem; IrishCatholic; Carlucci; Desdemona; meyer; Para-Ord.45; Normandy; mmanager; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

5 posted on 02/24/2010 4:24:39 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
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To: FrPR

Thanks for the link.


6 posted on 02/24/2010 4:25:20 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Tribune7
Joe Bastardi and Elliott Abrams would make an untouchable tag team.

It is hard to figure who would partner with Al Gore.

7 posted on 02/24/2010 4:31:59 PM PST by AGreatPer (Impeach Obama)
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To: neverdem

I saw him debate Bill Nye on O’Reilly. He did well.


8 posted on 02/24/2010 4:33:56 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: neverdem
Debates resolve nothing. Science does not rely on debates. It relies on empirical methods broadly agreed upon, mutuality and integrity among investigators.

Besides: The warmist con-artists have been eager to lie to the world on paper. Why should we expect them to be honest in a debate? Makes no sense.

The participants would probably have fun though.

9 posted on 02/24/2010 5:27:25 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
Debates resolve nothing. Science does not rely on debates.

This isn't just science anymore. It's politics and politicized science. All the young skulls full of mush have only heard the crap from the left. When they understand the fraud behind this crap they can begin to question all the other BS they have been taught in public schools like Howard Zinn's A People's History Of The United States. These kids need a lot of deprogramming when two thirds of those under 30 years old voted for Obama.

10 posted on 02/24/2010 6:44:21 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Mega dittos. You made an excellent point:

This isn't just science anymore. It's politics and politicized science. All the young skulls full of mush have only heard the crap from the left. When they understand the fraud behind this crap they can begin to question all the other BS they have been taught in public schools like Howard Zinn's A People's History Of The United States. These kids need a lot of deprogramming when two thirds of those under 30 years old voted for Obama.

11 posted on 02/24/2010 7:15:14 PM PST by boxlunch
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Is it my eyes, or does Joe look like he’s lost weight and has a drawn face? He’s a good guy. Hope all is well with him.


12 posted on 02/24/2010 7:26:36 PM PST by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Why should we expect them to be honest in a debate? Makes no sense.

And they wont. They will use tricks, stunts and cons. For example, Bill Nye the Science Guy used a trick with his recent debate with JB. He put a black ink pigment into water to visually trick the viewer into thinking the concentration was greater then it really was. They are not our peers. They never were. Their elitist pedigree means nothing.

13 posted on 02/24/2010 8:00:34 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: AGreatPer

I’d love to see Michael Mann in a public debate.


14 posted on 02/24/2010 8:05:12 PM PST by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: Tribune7
I remember when Michael Mann was the guy that got NOAA to move their offices and reporting stations from Harrisburg to State College for his school.

Was a big hub bub around here because we lost our local dopler. But since then two TV stations have got their own dopler.

15 posted on 02/24/2010 8:21:39 PM PST by AGreatPer (Impeach Obama)
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To: neverdem

Imhofe needs to investigate Phil Jones because he worked for the US Dept of Energy during at least part of the time he developed the questionable basis for some of the temperature station fixes (heat island effect).


16 posted on 02/25/2010 4:31:28 AM PST by finnsheep
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To: FreeStateYank

I was thinking the same thing-he looks really tired. But it has been a brutal winter of forecasting.

(I have to post my obligatory): I heart Joe Bastardi.

He is so sweet and funny, but when it comes to science, he can kick ass!

I’d LOVE to see him rip Algore a new one; I’d pay money to watch that...

GoJoe!
SZQ


17 posted on 02/25/2010 4:38:51 AM PST by homegroan (*Vote Squirrel 2012*!....ILLIGITIMA NON CARBORUNDUM..... -that's 4U Dad!))
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To: homegroan

Too true regarding the OT work on winter forecasting for good ol Joe, lol.

I’d like to see Joe team up w/ Inhofe at Congressional hearings, and rip the Gorebullator a new one which would remain tender as he is thrown in the poky for RICO crimes. Maybe he’d find a new ‘friend’ to nurse him back to health.


18 posted on 02/25/2010 5:20:03 AM PST by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: FreeStateYank

LOL! What a visual!


19 posted on 02/25/2010 5:28:23 AM PST by homegroan (*Vote Squirrel 2012*!....ILLIGITIMA NON CARBORUNDUM..... -that's 4U Dad!))
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To: AGreatPer
that got NOAA to move their offices and reporting stations from Harrisburg to State College

When stuff like that happens you know our universities are over-funded.

20 posted on 02/25/2010 6:37:09 AM PST by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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