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To: presidio9
However, since you brought it up, liberaltarians in general overwhelmingly support a woman's so-called "right" to choose.

Agreed. So does the libertarian party. My point is that the libertarian philosophy is not limited to USA and if you go to its roots, you will see that anyone for liberty must necessarily oppose baby murder. On drug legalization, I was merely agreeing with the earlier post that the libertarians and conservatives differ on the issue.

I am with you on having scant respect for people who claim that they know babies have life and then do nothing about protecting such life.

I am all for smashing Islamofascists, but I find it hard to believe that those who support various Islamofascist dictators andonce hooked up with the bin Ladens actually oppose radical Islam. This doublespeak is a neocon game and not a paleoconservative idea.

67 posted on 02/22/2010 7:36:01 PM PST by JimWayne
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To: JimWayne
My point is that the libertarian philosophy is not limited to USA and if you go to its roots, you will see that anyone for liberty must necessarily oppose baby murder.

Listen, I think libertarianism is for idiots, so it annoys me to have to explain it to you. But in the hopes of ending this conversation, I will.

The core libertarian philosophy has to be that it's only "baby murder" if you accept the fact that its a baby. If you think you have an inconvenient "blob of flesh" inside of you, its medical proceedure. If everybody but you believes its a baby, the government is still imposing on your life when it denies you an abortion. How can anybody else or the government impose their morality on you? Can they PROVE life begins at conception? Some forms of libertarianism claim to support life, but they are really paying lip service, or are too powerless within their own party to do anything worthwhile about it.

And, BTW, I could care less about the views of libertarian parties outside the US. They are even less meaningless than the ones Ron Paul confronts me with every four years.

I am all for smashing Islamofascists, but I find it hard to believe that those who support various Islamofascist dictators andonce hooked up with the bin Ladens actually oppose radical Islam.

You're dangerously close to tinfoil hat territory here. Most of the relationships you're talking about were pre-9/11. The dictators we're "supporting" now are a product of the fact that we can't sustain wars all over the globe at the same time.

79 posted on 02/22/2010 7:49:47 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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