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To: CharlesWayneCT; xsmommy
xsmommy wrote:

what i have seen condemned on this thread as hatred, appears in large part merely to be a desire that the conservative agenda NOT promote the homosexual agenda, and not animus against homosexuals themselves. So, i would be interested to hear specifically what you think can be done to acheive that end while not imparting what you consider to be hatred.

Quite the contrary, going back to the 2008 campaign the religious or social conservative bloc has been pounding on that social agenda as being paramount over traditional fiscal liberalism and constitutional constraint:
"You" seem intent on building a tripod with one long leg and two short legs to keep it from falling over all the way.

Read through this thread and it is clear that opinions that don't match that single issue lead to insult and division...if that is the future of the Tea Parties then we may well actually be doomed.

I'm perfectly willing to lock out McCain and Arnold, I'd watch Specter starve and reverend Wright burst into flame, but when someone agrees with my goal, and means, of turning this country around I don't intend to throw them out of the tent over sexual orientation.

I don't like homosexuality and I don't like Japanese Cars but don't choose friends or associates based on only those traits. It makes more sense to try and save a sinner you can talk to than to banish everyone who disagrees on those points and, in so doing, invite them to work against what I/we want to see.

573 posted on 02/20/2010 9:53:20 AM PST by norton
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To: norton

Private homosexual behavior is NOT what is at issue here.

It is the radical homosexual agenda which is being maintstreamed.

Have you read this thread? The whole thing?

YOu should.


578 posted on 02/20/2010 10:01:09 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: norton

The way this is going those of us who do not want homosexual behavior NORMALIZED and PROTECTED by the US CONSIITUTION and its STATE Apparatus are the ones who won’t be tolerated...


580 posted on 02/20/2010 10:06:32 AM PST by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: norton

As abundantly substantiated, and some on his thread, the nature of homosexuality is antithetical to conservative values. It maybe for lower taxes and smaller government, but its advocation of homosexuality works against such, due to both the effects of homosexuality and the movement that it is part of.

You cannot separate fiscal conservatism and small government from moral values, as the loss of the latter requires growth of the former, and the Founders largely recognized that while Church and State were to be separate, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” (John Adams, who sometimes sounded like an agnostic).

Again, see where the “war on God” is costing us in sous, lives and money: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html


596 posted on 02/20/2010 10:34:43 AM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord [only Biblical object of petition] shall be saved")
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