[Brices Crossroads]

This six minute excerpt from Rush's radiio show is well worth listening to for all who wondered about Palin's decision to endorse McCain for reelection to the Senate. In it, Rush expounds on the Tea Party Movement and even states that Joe the Plumber has said that he thinks Palin wold make a very good President, something that has not been reported, something that has not been reported elsewhere. Rush's take is very similar to what I have seen Jim Robinson post on this subject.

[Tzfat]

Rush and Palin are wrong on this. This is not the general election. McCain is worse than a RINO - he is a RINO with a rotten, mean streak.

[Sloth]

If Palin considers her loyalty and obligations to a politician greater than those to the Constitution, then that’s unfortunately all I need to know about her. :(

[Reagan Man]

Personal endorsements usually have little if any effect on an election. And Rush's opinion is just that. Political and personal friendships aside. Even though it may be understandable, Palin endorsing McCain is still a black mark on her record. Same goes for Fred Thompson. Having said that, I'd still vote for either Fred or Palin if given the opportunity.

>>>>> Sarah Palin is not a Tea Partier

Wow, is that a fact, Rush? I didn't know that.

[McGruff]

Rush Limbaugh believes that Sarah Palin owes McCain the fact that she is what she is today and that it is a payback time for her to McCain , it is an obligatory payback says Rush Limbaugh.

Rush gets it. Too bad the Sarah haters don't. And probably never will. I guess they're smarter than Rush.

[manc]

disagree with him totally

She is a republican first and foremost and I understand that but so is JD Hayworth and she should have either stayed out of the race or went for the most conservative person which is JD Hayowrth.

Sarah was used by McCain in the election and now he is using her again

I’m still holding out that Sarah stays out of this from now and says she cannot go there to help him as she is too busy.

Wither her endorsing him it makes it a hell of a lot harder to elect JD

[Notary Sojac]

"Loyalty is a virtue" is exactly what put Dede Scozzavafa on the GOP ballot.

[fightinJAG]

bokmark

[Dick Bachert]

Precisely what I said here at FR when her action was first made public.

And Scott Brown is in the same mode. And, suspicious as I am, McCain probably indebted Brown by supporting Scott for precisely this reason as he’s in the political fight of his life against J.D.

[Ron H.]

Putting aside the issue of those claiming to be conservatives for a moment but are actively endorsing and supporting McCain while he is THE PROBLEM and not the solution for turning around the Republican party. To this voter they are just more of the same that has the party on its knees these days. And I for one have less respect and support for these alleged conservatives when they come out in support of the man who has and will still work to destroy this democracy we currently have. McCain is no friend of right-thinking conservatives.

[Dick Bachert]

Look, if you really want to control these folks, PUT SOME DECENT PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE, where the Founders, in their wisdom, PUT THE KEYS TO THE CASH REGISTER. NO FUNDING, NO GARBAGE PROGRAMS AND SPENDING.

Gosh, here are two of them now:

TWO solid congressional candidates who warrant your consideration and support. Even if you live elsewhere, ALL these folks are involved with legislation that impacts YOUR LIFE. If you doubt that, do the names Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Schumer, etc. ring any bells?

CHRISTINA JEFFREY from the SC 4th

WEBSITE: http://christinajeffrey.com

DOCTOR BERT LOFTMAN is running for the House from the 9th District of Georgia.

WEBSITE: http://loftmanforcongress.com/LoftmanForCongress/HOME.html

Visit their sites and if you agree that they would be good folks to have in D.C., sent a contribution and spread the word to others who might do the same.

We’ve left things to the career politicians for too long. If things continue as they are, there will be NOWHERE TO HIDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqw7kXG0kxU

[ScottinVA]

Unless I’ve missed something, Sarah’s support for McCain seems pretty low-key. My guess is she’ll do the minimum to fulfill whatever promise she made to him early on, then get outta Dodge.

[Friendofgeorge]

Palin/ Joe the Plumber 2012, love it!!!

Rush is right! Sarah rocks!!!

[pollywog]

Why is this hard??????!!!!!! Find the candidate that stands for what you want, and SUPPORT HIM or HER!!! Another donation headed to JD Hayworth today... so if that makes me a minority among you, so be it!!

[Star Traveler]

Right on Rush! Preach it baby! :-)

You remember how upset everybody got at George W. Bush back when Specter was still a Republican, was running in the primary against Pat Toomey, and Specter was a Republican disaster, but Bush is out there endorsing him and raising money and I think he did a couple campaign appearances, and people: “What the hell is this? Why didn’t he get behind Toomey? Where are the conservatives?” It is a problem in a lot of people’s views. This is just how parties work.

...

This is why, folks, the tea party movement must stay oriented on reclaiming the Republican Party and not going third party, but reclaiming it, and then establishing a new set of principles here that rewards conservatism first, foremost, and down the line.

...

There’s this new group of Republicans called the Mount Vernon group, and they’re coming out with position papers on stuff. The Republican Party is fighting the tea party people now for control of the party, there’s a big battle going on. And I think personally four or five of these very prominent members of this Mount Vernon group said, “I’m not joining if the social issues are going to be part of our mission statement, I don’t want any part of it,” meaning they don’t want this party having a thing to say about any social issue, not just abortion, but anything else that’s cultural. They want it to remain fiscal and political only, not cultural. So the battle is going to be raging. And I hate to put words in Sarah Palin’s mouth because I’m just guessing and I’m neither defending nor criticizing, I’m just observing and I think I understand why she’s doing this. I don’t think in her mind she has a choice. She wouldn’t be who she is, she wouldn’t have all of this opportunity in front of her had McCain not chosen her. So this is the obligatory payback and I think after this it’s over.

[Star Traveler]

Sarah Palin, Miss Wasilla, 1984

[mojitojoe]

I wish she wouldn’t, I really wish she wouldn’t, but I can live with it. However, I will still donate to his opponent. I can’t stand McCain.

[FTJM]

RINO’s are bad, RINO’s should be voted out, no one should support RINO’s......except when Palin does it.

[BagCamAddict]

I have to toot my own horn for a moment on the Tea Party movement...

I posted this on Free Republic on June 19, 2003:

Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:18:53 AM · 124 of 160
BagCamAddict to Eagle Eye; All

The American Revolution was based on a tax revolt.

I'm ready for round two. I vote for a National Tea Party on December 16, 2003, which is the 230th anniversary of The Boston Tea Party.

Everyone spread the word via email, and we'll organize tax revolt rallies nationwide for that date.

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It took longer to catch on than I had hoped, but I sure am glad it's finally happening!

[DoughtyOne]

I am a Conservative.   I make no apologies for being one.

I support Conservatism and all of it tenets.  I support the most Conservative candidate.  I support solid Conservative policy.

I respect our Founding Fathers and what they tried to achieve.  Our guaranteed rights are rock solid.  Our Constitution is a very important document, it's early form prior to 1800, a very wise well thought out set of tenets.  Some modifications since then, are problematic, but not beyond repair.

It is always my intention to support Conservatives and avoid supporting people who join it's detractors to help marginalize or defeat it, by design or ignorance.  I am not two faced about it.  You won't find me explaining away the past antics of some person I want to support, because I don't want others to hold those antics against them.  I will be frank about what they have done, and ask others to weigh those negatives as part of a comprehensive wise decision that takes everything into consideration.  Not surprisingly, that's precisely the policy I will ask folks to abide by, if I object to a candidate.

If I make a mistake and back a policy that was wrong, you won't have to come and tell me what I have done.  I will come to the forum on my own and explain what I did and why I think it was a mistake to have done it.  I'm not perfect.   I make the occasional mistake.  That being said, you won't go back and find literally hundreds of things I have said and done on different matters over fifty years, that were completely 180 degrees off the mark as it relates to Conservatism.

I came by most of my beliefs naturally.  I didn't have Republicans telling me what to think in my teens.  My parents didn't talk to me about Conservatism, Democrats or Republicans.  And when I did register, I registered in the party that most closely represented my beliefs.  And truth be told, I didn't grasp all tenets of Conservatism until the early 1990s, but that being said, I was 95% of the way there by then.  I mention this, because I don't want folks to think they have fully arrived at Conservatism by their mid-twenties.  A full comprehensive understanding of Conservatism on all tenets will come to folks at different times in their life, but we should not put ourselves into a position of thinking we have arrived at a full understanding at any point in our life.  There is always time and a reason to ask ourselves if we need to think something out more thoroughly.

Most kids think they have arrived at adulthood and full understanding at 21.  Most people at fifty plus understand what a fallacy that is.  It's no difference with politics.  And in truth, some people will never grow up intellectually, even at 100.  That's why I always question my own understanding and motives.  I am open to changing my mind at all times, if it is truly warranted.  I am obligated to question everything.  That being said, I have come to the place that I have questioned all my beliefs to the point I accept all but views on current issues to be just about beyond question.  Even then, my core beliefs generally make those decisions very easy.

Our Founding Fathers and our U.S. Constitution are examples of men and documents that were as close to perfection as they could be as it relates to sound governance.  There are no finer documents that have been handed down prior to or since by mortal men, at the establishment of a new nation.  There is no finer intent on display by mortal men, that casts them as more dedicated to doing what was right, than that of our Founding Fathers.   And those who seek to defeat their desires and the Constitution's tenets are enemies of our nation.  If you try to abridge our rights, if you try to push things that damage our sovereignty, if you just don't get it time after time after time, you are unfit to lead.  You will never get my support.  And those who run against you with higher values will.

Our nation is in the death throws fighting for it's very life.  Leftists have pulled no punches and are trying to overturn our Constitution, to turn this nation into a socialist bicameral or unicameral government, the fewer checks and balances the better.  There has been an effort to silence those who object to bad policy.  And every time the lights of Conservatism are turned out on one more available public office, those who object to bad policy are quieter by one voice, and those who support bad policy are louder by one voice.  And as that takes place, the total objectives of the left come one step closer to realization.

Along the way, we have come to the conclusion that many in our own party have lost their way.  We lament daily those who front for leftist ideology.  We have come to the conclusion that we must return to our founding principles, if we are to turn this nation around.  We look forward to the next election, sometimes for as much as six years, with the knowledge that we must replace a person on our side who has gone astray, so that we can move the entire body of Conservative office holders and thus the nation back toward the right.  It goes without saying what our goal needs to be with Democrat office holders, but it isn't said enough what we must do with our own.

Seeing the intransigence of Republican leadership, we have embraced the Tea Party movement.

Folks, do Tea Party movements pop up when they are not needed?  Do good solid Conservatives rush out to support such causes when they are not desperately needed.  Do they shun an organized leadership to back an effort with very little organized leadership, for no reason?

As a group here, we realize that something is not only terribly wrong with our nation's leadership, but there is something terribly wrong with the leadership we have chosen to represent us as Conservatives.  All too often our leadership has been willing to reach out across the isle in a bipartisainship trip down the road to destruction.  And so it is said here frequently, we must turn this ship around if we are to save this nation.  This isn't just an empty phrase.  We have come to this determination after decades of observation, and the realization that our nation has moved dangerously, almost terminally left.

Our party leaders say that Reaganism is dead.  They express views that mirror the left, that Conservatives are something akin to damaged people, their desires some manifestation of well-meaning (or not) lunacy.  In the most extreme cases, they say things like, "I like the Democrat Party and their goals.", or "You have nothing to fear from a devout Marxsist administration, led by someone who has socialized with people who absolutely despise our Founding Fathers, our Founding Documents, and the United States as it existed at the end of Reagan's administration."

How can I possibly stand up for a person who would fit the model I described in the last paragraph?  How can I stand up and defend someone who would stand up for such a person?

Folks, we have a number of boards and organizations in my city.  You do too.  Some of those boards and committees may be run by bad people.  None the less, if a bad leader of a group asks you or me to join, wouldn't we be obligated to weigh the benefits of joining in an effort to help turn that group around?   Would we be wrong to join with that goal in mind?  Of course not.  After joining such a board, would we be an ungrateful individual if we voted against the bad leader who asked us to join?  Of course not.   And if that leader were to run for public office after bringing us on a board, would we be obligated to support them as a flawed individual?  Of course not.  It would be our moral obligation to support sound people and policies and retain our moral obligation to vote for them.

Can someone seriously tell me they think it would show character to back a person whose policies were bad for my community, just because they brought me on a local board?  Can someone tell me with a straight face that it would show moral character to support them for public office, knowing their goals were detrimental to my community?  To the contrary, I would be a moral relativist to explain away this person's poor policies, and back them just because they brought me on the board.  And if they tried to use my name as a person who supported their activity,  I would have to stand up and differentiate my views with theirs.  I would be morally obligated to do so.  And if another more solid person were running against them, I would have to support the views and candidacy of the better person.  That would be the moral thing to do, the only path to the expression of a wholesome character.  And if neither candidate were of high moral fiber, it would be my obligation to weight heavily supporting either one.

One of the best ways to break down an issue, is to take certain views and blow them out to the extreme.

We are told today that it shows character to back people who helped us along the way.  If that is true, then we can never expect replacements of our current party leaders to be more sound on policy than the person they replaced.  The people who supported the candidate that is leaving office, will more often than not be the people who make the decision to support his replacement.  So when they come a calling, the very act of them supporting the new candidate, would obligate that candidate morally to back their views.  And that is what has taken place, isn't it.  We have good people go to Washington, D.C., and they have been coopted.

That's the moral conundrum those who support a person backing an extremely flawed individual for re-election, because that person once did them a favor, have to come to terms with.

Are any of us morally obligated to completely ignore our own moral standards simply because someone who doesn't share them once did us a favor no matter how big?

If the answer to that is yes, then check your Conservatism at the door.  Similar claims of obligation will be claimed at every election, and Conservatism might just as well fold up it's tent and die.

If we can't support a man like J.D. Hayworth against a man like John MeCain today, then when can we?

We will never see a worse candidate to represent Conservatism on a Republican national ticket than John MeCain.  And if we can't stand up to him, then Reaganism IS truly dead.

Rush, I don't say this often, but you should be ashamed of yourself.

Folks, don't come on this forum to say that we need to turn things around anymore, if you support MeCain today.  This is your opportunity to strike a blow against the status quo.  This is the time to turn things around.  This is your opening.  Use it or lose it.

If you can't work up the muster to oppose John now, you never will.  And if you can't oppose an extremely flawed individual today, then how can you be expected to do so in the future?  And if you cannot object to an extremely flawed individual today, how can you be expected to object to someone who is flawed to a lessor degree at another time?

This is a defining time for Conservatives.  Either you are one and can only support people and policies that advance your cause, or you are a leftist and can only support people and policies that advance your cause.

Anyone who thinks John MeCain's candidacy is an example of middle-ground, at the very least, has temporarily lost their way.

Character?  Morality?  Loyalty?  These are all good words, but even good words can be bastardized to destroy their wholesome meaning.

I will oppose the candidacy of John MeCain with every fiber of my being.  I will weigh heavily the implications concerning those who can't.

Left or right folks?  Which path is it to be over the next six years?

Morality is calling.  So is moral relativism.  Whose call will you answer?

By the memory of Ronald Reagan, I have made my determination clear.  He is not dead to me.

[fortheDeclaration]

Palin owes nothing to McCain.

She has no business supporting McCain in a primary against a real conservative.