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1 posted on 02/18/2010 4:36:23 AM PST by radioone
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Someone check Obama’s pockets...I'll bet you'll find most of it there....
2 posted on 02/18/2010 4:40:52 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: radioone

Overseas, thanks to the “free trade” movement.


3 posted on 02/18/2010 4:42:42 AM PST by NVDave
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Yes, we can import all this from the Chinese or the Canadians or the South Americans, but at some point one needs the real capital created by real wealth to pay for it all — not nuancing and adjusting and tinkering with money. Money is simply a representation of stored capital that comes from real production of some sort.

So for a while longer, we need the miner, the oil pumper, the farmer, the fabricator, the carpenter, the road-builder, the railroad guy, the cement layer, the chemist, the computer engineer — and the system that allows them all to create wealth unimpeded by government and in an environment in which the citizen who benefits from their labor appreciates their industry.

Finish the obvious thought, VDH. It's our moronic trade policies that have stripped away our real wealth, policies that have since WWII opened our markets to any and all comers while allowing competitors to keep their markets closed to US. Free trade, and the pretend free trade the US has practiced for decades, are nothing but formulas for averaging down the US standard of living and national wealth.

5 posted on 02/18/2010 4:57:25 AM PST by Will88
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To: radioone
VDH Bump! Always a high quality read.

He has good stuff in here about wealth creation. If the Republicans were smart, they would hammer Obama on that. Deficit spending and hiring more government workers cannot create wealth. Obama has done nothing to create wealth. Accessing natural resources, cutting taxes, cutting government spending -- these things create wealth. If some services to the poor end up getting cut, we'll have to live with that -- we need to get busy creating wealth.

6 posted on 02/18/2010 4:58:02 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I was born in America, but now I live in Declinistan.)
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To: radioone

bflr


9 posted on 02/18/2010 5:05:00 AM PST by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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A culture which breeds a population into the below is a major factor.

From “Welfare Ain’t What It Used To Be...
http://www.jimbyrd.com/welfare-aint-what-it-used-to-be

Sharon Jasper has been victimized. Sharon Jasper has been rabidly wronged. She has become a Section 8 carcass, the victim of ever changing public housing policies.

Sharon Jasper has spent 57 of her 58 years dedicated to one cause and one cause only, and has nothing to show for her dedicated servitude. She has lived in Section 8 housing all but one of her 58 years. This legacy was passed down from her parents, who moved into Section 8 housing in 1949 when Sharon was six months old. She has passed the legacy down to her own children, but fears they may have to get jobs to pay for the utilities and deposits that Section 8 is now requiring. She laments about her one year hiatus from the comfort of her Section 8 nirvana: “I tried it for a year… you know… working and all. It’s not anything I would want to go through again, or wish on anyone in my family, but I am damn proud of that year.”

After hurricane Katrina, Sharon moved out of the St. Bernard housing project and into a new, albeit substandard, quarterage. As can be noted from the above photo of her new Section 8 home, it is repugnant and not suitable for someone of Sharon Jasper’s senior status in the system. “Don’t be fooled by them hardwood floors,” says Sharon. “They told me they were putting in scraped wood floors cause it was more expensive and elegant, but I am not a fool–that was just a way to make me take scratched up wood because I am black. The 60 inch HD TV? It may look nice but it is not a plasma. It’s not a plasma because I’m black. Now they want me to pay a deposit and utilities on this dump. Do you know why?”

She has held her tongue through years of abuse by the system, but it came to a head at the New Orleans city council meeting where discussions were under way about the tearing down of the St. Bernard projects. When a near riotous exchange between two groups, one opposing the tearing down of St. Bernard and the other wanting the dilapidated buildings torn down and newer ones built, Sharon unleashed verbal hell with her once silenced tongue. The object of her oratory prowess was an acquiescent poor white boy in attendance. The content of her scathing rebuke was, “just because you pay for my house, my car, my big screen and my food, I will not be treated like a slave!” and “back up and shut up! Shut up, white boy! Shut up, white boy!”

Recapping from the mental log of the city council minutes in her head, Sharon repines, “our families have been displaced all over the United States. They are being forced to commit crimes in cities they are unfamiliar with. It is a very uncomfortable situation for them. Bring them back, then let’s talk about redevelopment.”

To try to bring notice to her tribulations, Sharon has graciously allowed parts of her slummy abode to be photographed for documentation of her abuse.

dining-rooms.jpg

Shown above is the dining room that the housing authority pawned off on her. Sharon will acknowledge that it is nice and all, but the “man” knows she has 25 family members to feed and the size is inadequate. She believes she is the recipient of malevolence by “the man.”

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Above is her bathroom, intended to taunt her because “the man” knows she is going to have to start paying her utility bills and wants to run-up her water and towel bills. Once again, she is the recipient of malevolence by “the man.”

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Above is the stocked wine cellar that came with her new Section 8 house. Sharon states that this is another example of the white man taking advantage of poor black women. “Look at all these bottles of wine,” she said. “They are worthless. Just another example of thinking I am stupid. All this wine is at least 10 years old and some of it is 20 years old, you know the white man kept all the fresh stuff for himself. I ain’t that stupid.”

Sharon directs the reporter’s attention across the street to Duncan Plaza, where homeless people are living in tents, and states that, “I might do better out there with one of those tents.” She further lamented about her situation, “I might be poor, but I don’t have to live poor.”

Sharon Jasper is not going down without a fight. She is the head of a tenant association that works with the AFL-CIO’s Gulf Coast Revitalization Program, which is working closely with the Congressional Black Caucus, which is working very closely with Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to get a bill, operation Section 8 Time Share, passed in Congress. The bill would allow people of seniority, like Sharon Jasper, who have been loyal recipients of Section 8 housing for a minimum of 20 years, to be able to use a special Section 8 permit for a time share vacation home two weeks out of the year in a tropical location.

(snopes indicates the top half of the story is true, but the bottom half is satire beginning with the wine cellar (heck everybody knows the man doesn’t build cellars in Louisiana.))


11 posted on 02/18/2010 5:13:24 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: radioone

Right down the toilet.


16 posted on 02/18/2010 5:59:11 AM PST by puppypusher
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Postmodern Western society will soon witness a real showdown, analogous to the teenager who rebels and either accepts that he is still dependent on his parents and therefore subject to the rules of the house, or runs away and implodes in a sea of drugs and street-life.

In short, how will an entitled society react when the money runs out and it learns that it must change or wither away — and all the whining rhetoric about “social justice” and “a green future” and “spread the wealth” and “redistributive change” won’t bring another barrel of oil or bushel of wheat or Douglas fir 2” x 4”?

20 posted on 02/18/2010 6:20:31 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: radioone
Read the whole thing - it's well worth it. One more excerpt:

Why am I not too optimistic right now? Our President, who submitted the largest deficits in recent memory, and who is on track to nearly double the national debt in record time, continues to blame Bush — not just for Bush’s lamentable deficits, but for Obama’s own new unsustainable ones. I think his weird logic is: “Bush’s bad deficits made me trump them by a factor of four.” When the Commander-in-Chief expects the populace to believe that, or drops real unemployment figures and talks instead of theoretical jobs saved, or flip-flops on everything from evil Wall Street bankers now suddenly good, or bad nuclear power now vital, then we have about as much hope as we would have under Jimmy Carter.

24 posted on 02/18/2010 6:28:57 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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Look at implementation of the Income Tax and the Federal Reserve...1913.....


32 posted on 02/18/2010 6:58:25 AM PST by mo
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To: Tolik

Ping.


33 posted on 02/18/2010 7:06:20 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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On the other hand, as the money runs out, will state workers, pensioners, and entitlement recipients accept that there are too few wealth-creators to fund their pay-outs, or, as in Greece, hit the streets in protest, teenager style, each time some adjustments are necessary?

Hit the streets - because all of these entitlement recipients think government is the wealth creator.

Refusal to continue paying out at current levels, therefore, would only happen because Republicans are being "mean-spirited".

42 posted on 02/18/2010 7:44:49 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: radioone
"Where Did Our Real Wealth Go?"


44 posted on 02/18/2010 7:49:58 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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Victor Davis Hanson:

Just a partial list: http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/victordavishanson/index:

The Tragic Truth of War ... Killing the enemy brings victory
The New, Upside-Down War on Terror
Why Did Rome Fall—And Why Does It Matter Now?
Why Fear Big Government? The more of it, the more dangerous and creepy our lives become
The Trouble With Elitist Theories. Nobody likes to be lectured by those claiming superior wisdom but lacking common sense
Victory — How Quaint an Idea! Defeating Islamic terrorism is not only definable and possible, but closer than ever before
Partisanship, Then and Now
Civilization’s Lies [Victor Davis Hanson on the West embracing noble lies not squaring with reality]
America Rides Off into the Sunset. The only people excited about the “change” in America's foreign policy are the world’s bad actors
Mr. President, Words Matter. Obama, the rhetorician, forgot that people might actually take seriously what he said
Our Obama Saga [Victor Davis Hanson dissects Obama, painfully, again]
The Obamarang. [Victor Davis Hanson dissects, deconstructs, ridicules and demolishes Zero’s lies]
Trashing the Job Makers. The Obama administration’s tax-talking frenzy has left business owners feeling uncertain
Post-election Thoughts (Liberals do not understand populist outrage. Bloodletting will Continue)
Our Philosopher-King Obama. He doesn’t mind pushing noble legislation that most people oppose
Why The Great And Growing Backlash? What Scott Brown’s election portends for the Obama agenda
"Let me be perfectly NOT clear" & "Make lots of MISTAKES about it" [Victor Davis Hanson on Obama's lies]
Truths We Dare Not Speak. Five propositions that simply have become taboo
2010: Our Year of Decision
Beating the Dead Terrorist Horse. September 11 taught us many lessons. To our peril, we have forgotten them
A Humpty-Dumpty View of the World
2009 Chickens and Their 2010 Roost
Where Did These Guys Come From? The Origins of Obamism
The War Against the Wannabe Rich. Why attack the productive classes who want to be rich?
The Long March From California to Copenhagen [Hanson on debate between capitalism and socialism]
The Palin Wonder
Why Are We Tiring of Obama?
If Iran Refuses To Cooperate, Block Its Ports
Riding the Back of the Tiger [Victor Davis Hanson on Obama not understanding What Causes Wars...]
What Bush Inherited, and What He Left Left Behind
Who Are ‘They’? To Obama, “they” are responsible for all our troubles. Problem is, “they” are most of us
Afghan Mythologies. We have everything we need to defeat the Taliban.
The Discreet Charm of the Left-wing Plutocracy
Truman and the Principles of U.S. Foreign Policy. Jimmy Carter rejected the postwar consensus. President Obama appears to be following a similar path
Dr. Barack and Mr. Obama - The backlash is sharp as voters learn that Obama is not the man they thought he was
Obama and "Redistributive Change". His real agenda
The War Against the Producers
President Palin’s First 100 Days. Imagine if Sarah Palin had Obama’s record
Thoughts About Depressed Americans
Our Battered American [gets angrier - Must Read Rant]
Just a partial list. Much more at the link:  http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/victordavishanson/index
54 posted on 02/18/2010 9:40:53 AM PST by Tolik
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  Ping !

Let me know if you want in or out.

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FR Index of his articles:  http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/victordavishanson/index
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His website: http://victorhanson.com/

55 posted on 02/18/2010 9:41:40 AM PST by Tolik
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bump


59 posted on 02/18/2010 12:10:28 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: radioone
The wealth went away because we as a culture decided to live for today instead of build for the future.

Such is the way of the world I guess. If we are lucky we end up like Britain, if we are unlucky like Rome.

64 posted on 02/18/2010 6:43:36 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Wealth “creation” has never stopped. It is just that society has not wanted to pay its true price.


65 posted on 02/19/2010 10:21:49 AM PST by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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