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Meteorite Crammed with 'Millions' of Organic Compounds..
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| Feb 15th, 2010
Posted on 02/15/2010 8:30:53 PM PST by TaraP
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To: calex59
Einstein says matter and energy are interchangeable. Modern science says time and space are BOTH also intergangeable with energy.
Therefore, the theory is that energy existed first, and was later converted into matter. Some was converted into space and some into time also.
I don’t understand that part about time and space. But I can see the idea that matter is energy. Protons neutrons, and electrons are apparently made out of pure energy. And all matter is made of these things.
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posted on
02/15/2010 10:29:29 PM PST
by
mamelukesabre
(Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
To: calex59
... if there was no space what was there?You have to take things by steps. The first step was taken by Einstein, who conceived of space-time. Lucretius makes a comment prescient of this, "Time also exists not of itself, but from things themselves is derived the sense of what has been done in the past". Remarkable.
With General Relativity, Einstein established what Wheeler calls Geometrodynamics, that is a physics OF space-time, rather than a physics that transpires IN a rigid framework of space-time. But the idea of an evolving or changing space-time begs the question of time. It seems to require a "time out of time". This is thinking at the limit of what it is possible to conceive.
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posted on
02/15/2010 10:42:38 PM PST
by
dr_lew
A very old theology explains life on earth fairly well I think and would encompass this meteorites composition.
“Where conditions are favorable for matter life emerges, where favorable for life, intelligence emerges, where favorable for intelligence, consciousness emerges.”
In the only example we have this has been bourne out.
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posted on
02/15/2010 11:40:12 PM PST
by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
To: TaraP
There it is, proof positive we came from a bunch of rocks. Well, maybe the liberals did.
To: garjog
No one has any idea how the primordial soup if it existed on earth might spring to life. I think it would be fair to say that they have lots of ideas; just no definitive evidence the confirm or disconfirm any of them.
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posted on
02/16/2010 2:29:11 AM PST
by
Erasmus
(Buffalo: "I never met an Indian I didn't like, with the possible exception of Deepak Chopra.")
To: mamelukesabre
Just pointing out the obvious ....
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posted on
02/16/2010 7:51:51 AM PST
by
SkyDancer
(If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
To: calex59
Believe it or not the old Rabbis defined how it all came about in the “Kabbalah” teachings. Take a look at the concept of the “Tzimtzum” “
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzimtzum";. Strange as it seems they believed in Eleven “Emanations” predating the eleven demenisions of string theory by thousands of years.
Only in the future will it be possible to understand the Tzimtzum that brought the 'Empty Space' into being, for we have to say of it two contradictory things... [1] the Empty Space came about through the Tzimtzum, where, as it were, He 'limited' His Godliness and contracted it from there, and it is as though in that place there is no Godliness... [2] the absolute truth is that Godliness must nevertheless be present there, for certainly nothing can exist without His giving it life. (Likkutei Moharan I, 64:1)
To: WhatsItAllAbout
I am more likely to believe God created it all than I am to believe that matter just suddenly formed from nothing, not only that we are to believe that nothing(space)formed from nothing.
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02/16/2010 8:32:44 AM PST
by
calex59
To: TaraP
To understand the diversity of organic chemicals that were floating around a primordial solar system will help us understand how life may have appeared on Earth
Which doesn't discount a God who created life, either. It would seem logical that, in creating life, he would use the elements already in existence around him.
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posted on
02/16/2010 8:37:12 AM PST
by
reagan_fanatic
(The liberals are asking us to give Obama more time. Is 25 to life enough?)
To: GSP.FAN
The conditions for life may not be that rare after all. A good look around the Solar System would show the conditions are extremely rare. And by any objective measure, life is rare on Earth, but not as rare as other places.
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posted on
02/16/2010 8:43:40 AM PST
by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: Moonman62
It depends on what your definition of life is.
I believe just recently they found life at underwater volcanoes and are quite shocked that organisms could exist in a toxic enviroment..
I guess if you are looking at planets for brights light or freeways,people walking around etc you might be find nothing at all and conclude no life exists.
Galaxies exist that are Gazillions of years older than Earth,i ain’t a gambling man but somewhere a form of life exists..
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posted on
02/16/2010 5:52:11 PM PST
by
GSP.FAN
(These are the times that try men's souls.)
To: GSP.FAN
No, we can’t rule out life elsewhere. And I think as far as biological life is concerned we can conclude life is rare. You can take insects, microorganisms around vents and elsewhere, but life is rare even here on Earth. What objective measure would you like to use, mass, volume, etc? The proportion of life is super small.
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posted on
02/16/2010 6:20:18 PM PST
by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: calex59
OK, so your question is -- what was there at the moment of the big bang. Guess no one can conceive what was there before the big bang because time didn't exist yet. Matter didn't exist. At the moment of the explosion there was super heated energy. And as I said, they claim that it popped into existence without any known cause.
Proponents of the big bang say that it all began with a singularity, which isn't an object but a horizon.
When the temperature is a billion billion billion degrees, all four fundamental forces are melted down into one substance. When it explodes and cools, time-space geometry, mater and chemical compounds emerge.
Seems like the physicists have mathematical formula and other good evidence for all of this and it jives with basic theology.
But, you say that you don't believe in the big bang.
Why do you doubt it I wonder. So, you are a creationist?
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posted on
02/16/2010 7:47:14 PM PST
by
garjog
(Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
To: TaraP
100 Kg X $20-?30 per gr=???
I need FR help!
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posted on
02/16/2010 8:01:57 PM PST
by
Randy Larsen
( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
To: Randy Larsen
100 kg X $20-$30 gr=??
Need FR help!
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posted on
02/16/2010 8:04:36 PM PST
by
Randy Larsen
( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
To: Randy Larsen
1 kg= 1000 g.
100 kg = 100,000 g.
100,000 g x $20 - $30 = $2,000,000 - $3,000,000.
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posted on
02/16/2010 8:50:23 PM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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