'Climategate' expert Jones says data not well organised

BBC NEWS ^ | 2010/02/13 | Roger Harrabin

[Terpfen]

Lies, lies, and more lies. Especially the part about the Medieval Warm Period: it’s totally missing from the IPCC’s hockey stick graph.

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[hometoroost]

Translation: We all know I’m lying but I need my grant money, I’d like to see taxes go up, and I’d tell you I’m trading carbon credits but that would be a really inexcusable conflict of interest.

[bmwcyle]

The shredder is so random in keeping files.

[Chaguito]

Professor Jones agreed that scientists on both sides of the debate could suffer sometimes from a "bunker mentality".

What in the name of heaven is Jones talking about? The writer had obviously thrown him a softball to hit. I know of no "skeptic" with a bunker mentality. I don't know any skeptic who is trying to suppress data. That is the whole argument of the skeptics. The writer obviously feels sorry for the good professor.

[Uncle Miltie]

So we’ll bet trillions of dollars on disorganized data?

[gibtx2]

not well organized usually means lots of bad data and no explanation for the bad data so they ‘organize’ the data to prove their point

[canuck_conservative]

Yeah exactly.

He’s so disorganized he can’t find the data, but organized enough to arrange it and compute that the Earth is warming uncontrollably?

Something smells here.

[Southack]

"Professor Jones agreed that scientists on both sides of the debate could suffer sometimes from a "bunker mentality".

My, my, myyyyyyy...how the mighty have fallen. "Both sides" of a scientific consensus!

So much for the much-ballyhooed "consensus." Now it's slipping out that there are two sides to the global warming debate.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

GIGO

[Southack]

It seems that the Global Warmists have “lost” their vaunted Hockey-Stick data.

Hmmm...

[USNBandit]

...has admitted some of his decades-old weather data was not well enough organised.

He said this contributed to his refusal to share raw data with critics - a decision he says he regretted.

Imagine if this guy wasn't a "researcher" and was instead an undergrad lab student. If his data wasn't well organised and he didn't share the raw data with his instructor, what kind of grade would he get?

There's a term for data that supports your conclusion, but that you can't provide for review or is smoothed. It's called "dry labbing."

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

The BBC pension fund is investing in keep this scam going...

[neverdem]

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[Marine_Uncle]

They will lose in the end. If they had any sense they would quickly be seeing how they could change their portfolios for their employees. Humpty fell of the wall. Else they may find their employees are not so pleased with their master.
Perhaps one of the earlier surprises last week was how the Guardian jumped right in and started to raise questions as how their very own kind had attempted to swindle the world out of hundreds of trillions of dollars over the long haul.
For once I give them credit for some honest reporting. It was almost weird to see them go at it. With that Ernie. I have to hit the rack. Do have a great upcoming day.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Nite...how is the snow shoveling?

[J Edgar]

Bottom line is he wasn’t paid enough to organize the data, but just enough to manufacture and propagate it as scientifically valid data.
You get what you pay for! LOL

[CurlyDave]

The writer obviously feels sorry for the good professor.

"Good professor" my hairy purple donkey.

This charlatan has been caught trying to swindle the entire earth out of several decades worth of economic progress.

And, if it hadn't been for some very courageous, but still anonymous, whistle-blower he and his cohorts might have succeeded. Put him up at the North Pole in a rowboat and see how long it takes him to get back home in the "ice-free" oceans.

There is no penalty too great for a man who tried to set civilization back.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!