[NCDragon]

The comments are SPOT on!

Here is the Raleigh News & Obstructors take on it:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/education/story/328722.html

[Soothesayer]

Slavery and reconstruction are important lessons. Students need to know what happened in history so they will know what we are up against today.

[mo]

The elite want and need slaves and slavery...can’t have the peons and peasants being educated to that end....

[Rinnwald]

Well, 1877 is the watershed year in the history of our Republic.

That was the year goatees finally displaced mutton-chops as the prefered facial hair for cranky old men (guilty).

[Bulwyf]

I believe the government has zero business teaching our kids anything, and I don’t think schools should be publicy funded. This is the result. Take the schools back, give them to their respective communities and let them run it, like back in the day.

It’s funny, a lot of people think our modern lifestyle is the best and we have all this great technology etc, but in reality, they had a much better system when neighbors helped neighbors and farmers helped each other by chipping in for a machine and taking turns harvesting each other’s crops. Nowadays, most people are just in it for themselves. Be nice to be able to turn that clock back.

[The_Victor]

Among the biggest concerns is covering U.S. history only from 1877 to the present in the 11th grade.

“There's nothing on the Confederacy, nothing on Robert E. Lee, nothing on Abraham Lincoln, nothing on any battle, nothing on reconstruction, nothing on the causes of the war, nothing on slavery. Nothing on slavery anywhere in the curriculum,” said Dr. Holly Brew.

I hate to go all technical on the issue, but by the course's start date of 1877, 13 years after the end of the Civil War, the events mentioned with the possible exception of reconstruction, all occurred before the time covered by the course.

Not that they're not important, but if the class goes from 1877 to present then I wouldn't expect much of Civil War history to be included.

[wku man]

"Under the proposal's first draft, U.S. history would begin in 1877 so more time could be given to recent historical events, such as the Vietnam War and the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan."

IOW, so they can teach how the military is evil, and we should just join hands with our enemies, sing "We Are The World", and beat our swords into plowshares. That way, we can plow for those who didn't.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Socialists have long seen history as their greatest enemy, because socialism is reliant on people forgetting history, not having pattern recognition of socialism’s failures, and the ability to rewrite the past “on the fly”, to whatever pragmatic purpose exists at the moment.

And socialism has been aware of its opposition to history to even before the foundations of socialism itself. Prior to socialism existing as a complete philosophy or religion, there were proto-socialist theories. But even they recognized the threat history presented to their faith.

Current blatant efforts by socialists to rewrite American history include pretending that the Democrat party always and wholly supported the civil rights movement, that the “Dixiecrats” were Republicans, or at least fully supported the Republicans against the Democrats, etc.

Since the Civil War cannot be easily rewritten, it is to be ignored.

[Calm_Cool_and_Elected]

ping for after my nap

[Historix]

This class and the time span it examines is the crux of a liberalized US History. Any mention of the revolution or states rights is eliminated. These kids will be taught, and being 29 I encountered this in California schools, nothing but activism, Hull House, Jane Adams, temperance, John Dewey, progressivism and anything else Howard Zinn may have highlighted.

[rwfromkansas]

Fox and this report are incorrect in criticizing this proposal IF it means that the kids will get this history in middle school.

Many states do that.

Frankly, it is very weird that North Carolina expects students to learn all of American history in one year.

THEY WON’T.

This proposal would allow for a split in history, doing colonial to Reconstruction in middle school, something tons of other states do and an idea that makes sense.

Frankly, these articles are not clear if this is the direction the state is going.

If NOT, I am adamently opposed to this proposal.

If so, I don’t see any reason anybody should be upset.

I would rather students really learn U.S. history than learn it all in one year.

[SunkenCiv]

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