Posted on 02/06/2010 10:14:41 AM PST by Syncro
February 6, 2010 12:10 PM
*snip*
"Prove your case."
"I should prove, what, a birth certificate that may or may not exist?" Farah had gotten irritated. "That’s ridiculous. You don’t even understand the fundamental tenets of what journalism is about, Andrew. It’s not about proving things. It’s about asking questions and seeking truth."
Breitbart tensed up after that insult. "Right."
"I know you’re not a journalist, so that’s fine. But don’t diminish people who’ve been doing this for 35 years."
"So you’re going to go on record saying that I’m not a journalist?"
"Are you? I’ve never heard you claim to be. Are you?"
"I’ll let it be answered by you."
"Well, I knew [Matt]Drudge didn’t consider himself a journalist, so I assumed that you were. … I don’t know, I’m not trying to insult you."
"You did."
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Well, that’s really reaching. There are two accounts. Be that as it may, changing the focus to “why can’t he just show his BC, John McCain did, it’s just a matter of good manners and good faith with the citizenry”—it might better throw BO on the defensive.
Wow. I looked at that for 1 minute and saw it was a fake.
For instance, look at the date. In Kenya as in most of Europe they put the date first and then the month.
Not on that fake though. EPIC FAIL.
No, that's not true. It will have awaken us up so that we have the opportunity to NEVER let this happen again. We NEED to be extremely careful in the future as to whom we put in the White House. We need to make sure they ARE American; by that, I mean, how did they grow up - what were their AMERICAN experiences; what do they believe about America and her history, etc. We really do need to be vigilant about our future candidates. So, even if we can't do anything now about obama - our FUTURE depends on this issue. OKAY?
Correction: He has spent nearly two million dollars.
Why is it reaching? His grandmother lived in Hawaii. If BO was born elsewhere, why wouldn’t the proud grandparents put his birth announcement in their hometown paper. All the announcement says is the name and address of the parents and the date he was born.
What does it profit the nation to win a political argument and loose the integrity of the Constitution as the basis for our government and laws?
The Constitution requires our presidents to be natural born. If Onada cannot prove he is, then he should not be sitting in the White House. Whether or not this is a winning issue is irrelevent.
I’m curious, what other Constitutional requirements do you deem to be irrelevent?
In the end it’s all about following the law. Demrats and alleged “recovering drmocrats” seem to have difficulty with that concept when it gets in the way of their Marxist agenda.
Lets get a grip on this people. If the core idea of the Tea Party Movement is to protect and uphold the Conservative laws and values of the United States Constitution then......Article 1 Section 2 (No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States)
You cant pick your battles based on politics. You are either all in or all out. If your gonna waffle on the very core of your movement then you might end up with a name like “TINO” (tea partyer in name only)!
Yup.
He's wrong on two counts. First, you do what's right and do your best, and let the chips fall where they may.
Second, the birth certificate thing is a winning issue because it is so easily understood by almost everyone over the age of seven. (Sort of like a guy murdered and his body dumped in an obscure park. Kids understand that this is wrong too.) It is precisely because it is so easily understood that there is a concentrated effort to marginalize anyone who brings it up. Really; does anyone think more people understand ACORN and SEIU than that if you want some job where citizenship is required you kinda have to be prepared to show your birth certificate (or naturalization papers)?
ML/NJ
The MSM, Obama and Dems would fume and sputter, but to no avail. Obama would have to cough up the original BC or explain why he was leaving his name off of a State's ballot.
And it doesn't matter which State. Be it ever so red, or have only 3 electoral votes, an incumbent President can't be leaving his name off the ballot of any one of the 57 States.
Birther efforts should be directed solely to this end, as it at once both brings Obama to task, advances the cause of the States against the Federal power, and brings the Constitution to the forefront.
But exposing him WOULD further delegitimize him in the eyes of a lot of people.
BS = Barry Soetoro"
Gotcha. Thank you.
Only if the impeachment proceeding will awaken us to agitate our individual State legislatures to detail the certification requirements for presidential candidates. Otherwise, the opportunity will be lost.
I think that a large portion of the Birther movement hasn't grasped the concept: it's not about identifying the hill that needs to be climbed or even climbing it, it's about what you do after you get to the top.
The objective should be preventing this sort of a situation from ever happening again, because if the objective merely is to remove Obama from office then everyone is wasting their time (because of my opinion that Obama will not be removed from office).
Does this mean that the nation should just sit back and observe its Constitution being violated and just shut up? How many more times in the future can we expect this to happen again if this defiance of the law is condoned?
Perhaps you should slow down a bit yourself, FRiend. First, if he is unqualified to the office, no impeachment proceedings are necessary - because one can only impeach a President. If unqualified, he is not (and never was) the President.
Second, you are the one who is expending effort to discount this as an issue. And yet it is someone else who is to "prove [you] wrong". If you don't care to support investigating the issue, that is fine. But to assume your lack of interest settles the issue is ludicrous.
If the best the Birther movement can do is bitch about people like me, then it should direct its attention to the larger problem--namely, getting itself to the point where it has the opportunity to prove me wrong.
That's funny - I'm "bitching" because I accurately portray your statements as supporting a kleptocracy, when your objections to anyone investigating or attempting to prosecute this issue are apparently not "bitching". It appears your screen name is particularly apt.
I hope you never need any of your constitutional protections - because you and others apparently don't feel the constitution matters any more.
Have a good day, FRiend.
“...admitting that you received oral sex from an intern half your age in the Oval Office...”
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Nothing unconstitutional about that.
Not true according to some poll that caught my eye the week before the Brown election.... a little over 50%, it was like 51 or 52% think there is a problem with his eligibility status. And as more and more people are becoming disgruntled with him it is an excuse for those who voted for him and now do not like him to say they were fooled by the dems. Why do you think the dems are trying to turn the propaganda tables on this topic when it could turn very nasty on them?
This whole administration was stupid for allowing this to go on so long without giving provable facts he is eligible and courts were even dumber to allow for these questions to grow such legs... His enemies are growing including those in his own party that want the marxist out of power in their party and the good ol boys back in power.
If he runs again he will run up against states that will have put laws in place that are going to make him prove his eligibility....If he does not run he better pray Repubilcans are not in charge of the house and senate and run investigations hoping to give the dems their own Nixon that was useful for propaganda for how long now???
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