Jury Finds Man Guilty of Murder in Kansas Abortion Provider’s Death

Foxnews.com ^ | 1/29/10

[FutureRocketMan]

WICHITA, Kan. — A man who said he killed prominent Kansas abortion provider Dr. George Tiller in order to save the lives of unborn children was convicted Friday of murder.

The jury deliberated for just 37 minutes before finding Scott Roeder, 51, of Kansas City, Mo., guilty of premeditated, first-degree murder in the May 31 shooting death.

[vpintheak]

He murdered a man in cold blood. This is not a thing a follower of Christ would do. He must pay the penalty and repent if he wants to reach heaven.

[Ol' Sparky]

Specifically, that stink will be emanating from Scott Roeder who will be rotting in a Kansas prison.

The stench is being admitted from Tiller the Killer's grave. Thank God, he is dead and can kill no more infants.

[KansasGirl]

[he was performing a LEGAL procedure]

No, he wasn’t. The abortions he was performing were on perfectly healthy, viable infants and they WERE NOT LEGAL in the state of Kansas. However, he had used his blood money to buy himself protection and political clout. He owned our Governor, Kathleen Sebelius and took out the state attorney general, Phil Kline, who dared to enforce the law.

http://law.findlaw.com/state-laws/abortion/kansas/

[Ronbo1948]

Where did I say I championed murder? I said in effect, “If you dance the tune, you pay the piper.”

[whatisthetruth]

Regardless what you and the judge thinks, this was all about the issue of abortion.

[trumandogz]

“If he were to have gone into the church to seek forgiveness and halt his performing infanticides....”

Perhaps, that was Tiller’s plan for that Sunday in his church, but instead he was murdered.

[messierhunter]

a person according to the definition in the law is someone who has been born and taken a breath, and, in many jurisdictions, are no longer attached to the mother by the umbilical cord

And that is where the law ceases to be relevant to me. If I kill a baby that's still attached to the umbilical cord I've still killed a baby, to hell with what the law says or the jurisdiction it occurs in. It would be moral to use lethal force to stop me, if I were in the process of attempting it, regardless of whether the law says so or not. Laws do not dictate right and wrong. If they happen to coincide, so be it. If they happen to violate someone's rights or refuse to recognize personhood, then civil disobedience might be called for. This was not civil though, and it was not called for and on that I agree with the jury's decision.

The mistake all these murderers make is that they're not saving any baby in imminent danger. You can't kill someone just because they promised to kill others, even if they've done so in the past. It's not legal regardless of whether the promised future-murders would be recognized by the law as murder or not. He didn't save anyone by killing Tiller, nor could he. Someone else will just take Tiller's place, and you can't even point to any particular life "saved" as a result of this with any level of confidence. The only true way to save someone is to expose the evil that is abortion and advocate a change in the law while educating mothers-to-be out of that decision.

[Elpasser]

No. The first obligation of the state is to protect the life of its citizens.

Roeder’s action, while extreme, can be viewed as a rational response to rampant killing of human life that the state refused to halt.

[TexasFreeper2009]

He should be pardoned.

[Ronbo1948]

“he was performing a LEGAL procedure]

No, he wasn’t. The abortions he was performing were on perfectly healthy, viable infants and they WERE NOT LEGAL in the state of Kansas. However, he had used his blood money to buy himself protection and political clout. He owned our Governor, Kathleen Sebelius and took out the state attorney general, Phil Kline, who dared to enforce the law.

Excellent point! What Tiller was doing, de facto, was what the Nazis did in their death camps, although the tiny victims were a diverse bunch. So clearly the Leftists believe mass murder is okay as long as its done without regard to race, creed, or religion.

[Balding_Eagle]

I said in effect, “If you dance the tune, you pay the piper.”

You also said:

If I had been on that jury, I’d voted Roeder “not guilty”

Which is it? 'Pay the piper', or 'not guilty'?

[Revolting cat!]

If we could stretch slightly, just slightly the term “abortion”, we could argue that Mr Roeder performed a legal art of post-partum aborion. (If we even have to stretch it, since we all know that infants have been and are being legally murdered outside the womb, as part of what passes nowadays for “ legal abortion”.)

[eleni121]

rotting....I was of course referring to the juries in Kansas.

along with Tiller’s rotting corpse.

[Ronbo1948]

“He should be pardoned”

I second the motion!

[whatisthetruth]

Specifically, that stink will be emanating from Scott Roeder who will be rotting in a Kansas prison

You may not seem to realize that Roeder was willing to give his life for what he felt was the defense of others and obviously feels his ultimate reward goes far beyond any punishment this earthly life can administer upon him.

[SoldierDad]

I do believe that a fetus is a living person. No I do not believe this man, nor any other, is morally justified in committing murder. Murder is prohibited by God and law. While, IMHO, abortion is murder, murder cannot be the way to end this practice.

[Mr. K]

geez you missed the entire point by the fact you you stated MY point

[messierhunter]

If Roeder did this, at the clinic, right before Tiller was killing a baby in immediate danger, then I could see a possible defense, legally or morally.

Bingo! Beat me to it. That never happens though, and it's a far cry from what happened here. More importantly, all this does is give the forces of evil a new martyr. We have to fight this through educating moms on just how much their babies really can feel and respond to stimuli, etc and by getting people into power who can change the makeup of the supreme court and one day overturn the current stance.

[Ronbo1948]

I’m not going to respond to you. I said what I said and said it quite clearly. You have problems with it. End of message.

[shield]

He killed a mass murderer. The man was stopped from killing innocent children. Guilty for murder is the right and only verdict.