Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]

Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

[JustPiper]

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Smack! What a weasel!

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Links to the following headlines coming right up:

PELOSI CLAIMS NEW HEALTH BILL ‘MUCH SMALLER’... DEVELOPING...

Obama doctors recommend ‘moderation of alcohol intake’...

Head of ‘Climategate’ research unit admits he hid data - because it was ‘standard practice’...

Czar: Education to make students ‘revolutionaries’

McCainiac on youtube sucking up to ACORN.

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[Arthur Wildfire! March]

[Top of Drudge]
PELOSI CLAIMS NEW HEALTH BILL ‘MUCH SMALLER’... DEVELOPING...
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61O4NV20100301?type=politicsNews

JustPiper Summarizes the Legislative Rules that Obama-care must overcome:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=811#811

Obama doctors recommend ‘moderation of alcohol intake’...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1254684/Barack-Obama-try-harder-kick-smoking-habit-doctors-say.html

[Since loony left warmers never know when to quit ...]
Head of ‘Climategate’ research unit admits he hid data - because it was ‘standard practice’...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254660/Climategate-expert-tells-MPs.html

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Weird News:
Chile quake ‘shifted the Earth’s axis and shortened the day’...
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aLAUn4Gy92ss

Wash. man electrocuted by urinating on power line...
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9E62II80&show_article=1

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Thugocracy AND Loony Left:
Czar: Education to make students ‘revolutionaries’
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=126667
[New Princeton lecturer Van Jones slammed non-activist students as “worthless people obtaining worthless degrees”]

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Obama-nomics:
American reliance on government ‘at all-time high’...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/01/americans-reliance-on-government-at-all-time-high

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Thugocracy

ACORN workers NOT PROSECUTED in NYC pimp video...
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/03/01/2010-03-01_bklyn_acorn_cleared_over_giving_illegal_advice_on_how_to_hide_money_from_prostit.html

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[Will the thugocrats hold a hearing?]
(Government Motors/Union Made) GM recalls 1.3 million cars over steering fault
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2462238/posts

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Futurism:
Scientists find huge quantities of water, ice on the moon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2462253/posts
[If we had patriots elected in DC, NASA could be industrializing space because of this and revolutionizing energy with Helium3.]

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Matrix:

Intelligence briefs: Did terrorists hit airliner?
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=126592
Witness statements suggest ‘crash’ was something more
[Jan. 25 crash of an Ethiopian Boeing 737]

Islamic Scholar Issues Anti-Terrorism Fatwa
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2462227/posts

China PLA officer urges challenging U.S. dominance
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2462198/posts

Exclusive: BREAKING NEWS: Army Discharges Four of the Fort Jackson Five
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.5618/pub_detail.asp

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Obama picked nose at summit? [Yes we can. Drill here. Drill now.]

Bugger-gate Update:
“I just saw it. At least he was doing something there that he has experience in doing successfully, he looks like a pro.”
— jospehm20

[Background info ...]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2460243/posts?page=45
ETL and Impy both confirmed that this is NO HOAX:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2460243/posts?page=101#101
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oQmLzdTl_U

Counterpoint [raybbr] I don’t see the big deal. He didn’t “pick” his nose - it was more like a scratch. Happens to me all the time. Now, giving Rep. Ryan the finger is a different story....

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Loony Left

“Dr. Sam Houston, a respected Little Rock physician and once a doctor for Hillary’s cantankerous father, Hugh Rodham, says it is well known in Little Rock medical circles that Clinton was brought to a Little Rock hospital for emergency treatment for an apparent cocaine overdose.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1155472/posts

Dr. Houston even went on video to talk about Clinton’s cocain problem.

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AZ Hayworth/McCain Primary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ9wy2MI1NI&NR=1
McCain to ACORN, “What makes America special, is whats in this room tonight”.

McCain sees irony in Paulson reforms (McCain attacks Paulson, Bush) (”We were all misled”)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2461535/posts

AZ-Sen. 2010: McCain-Hayworth battling over donors (RINO McCain wants to attack J.D.’s supporters)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2462059/posts

McCain: Obama did ‘excellent job’ of leveraging technology on campaign trail (MC-BARF ALERT)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2462098/posts

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Vulnerable Ark. Dem faces Senate primary challenge
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2462262/posts

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STEALING THE NEXT ELECTION
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=126357

The web page is an ad for WHISTLEBLOWER MAGAZINE, but it bullets key ways we might get rolled.

Many serious questions asked. This is an excellent layout of contingencies that should raise red flags as we near the next two elections.

— Universal registration.
— Census fraud.
— Will the New Black Panthers step up activity with more nightstick tactics?
— Matthew Vadum uncovers a Soros group that wants to meddle in vote counting.
— ACORN.
— Amnesty.
— Voting felons.
— Drew Zahn reports along the same lines as Glenn Beck — stimulus money to buy votes [in the spirit of FDR tactics].

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Thank you both for your hard work. Added some links.

— FRegards ....

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Sowell Snippets:

[Question] What do you think of the Obama administration when viewing it through the many concepts laid out in your book?

Thomas Sowell: It’s very hard to answer that without using language that is totally inappropriate in polite society. But it is quite clear that they believe it is their job to take decisions out of the hands of the voting public.

And there are any number of ways they can do that, including rushing through huge bills faster than anybody can possibly read them, including the congressmen who vote on them.

They made statements during the campaign that are totally the opposite of what they will actually do. One of the more recent examples being the notion that unlike previous administrations they’d be transparent and broadcast the hearings on C-SPAN.

In fact, all of the big decisions are made behind closed doors, in one case locked doors, more so than in previous administrations. They want to supersede the public and put into operation what the anointed think should be done.

[snip]

Question: The next is from Jacob Hacker, a political science professor at Yale who has spent his entire career in academia. Here’s the title from one of his recent papers: “How to Structure Public Health Insurance Plan Choice to Ensure Risk-Sharing, Cost Control, and Quality Improvement.”

Sowell: Third parties will structure how millions of people adjust to millions of different circumstances. In a sense, it is childish to imagine they can do this. But central planning has been tried for a very long time in many countries around the world.

Fortunately, most countries have discovered from bad experience — even socialist and communist countries have jettisoned it in most cases.

Question: Would you say his knowledge of political science is seeping into another area where he has no experience?

Sowell: Not seeping, charging. Charging into another area. Or as I would put it, stepping off a very high cliff.

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Intellectuals Step ‘Off The Cliff,’ Drag Rest Of Us Down: Sowell
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2461148/posts?q=1&;page=1
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=522457

[JustPiper]

Well, I have been enlightened today Caribou, so I take my kiss my caribou back, can we do that? -g-

This is a dirty trick by the McCain camPAIN to get JD in a precarious position, see if he admits he believes HBO is not a citizen, they will pounce on him for being a right-wing radical. Same way they pounced on lil man for saying he believes in UFO’s

[JustPiper]

McCain blows donkey Chunks!

[JustPiper]

when I got this Chile quake ‘shifted the Earth’s axis and shortened the day, I was very distressed, I’ve been touting it all along

[JustPiper]

The Best Quotes From Thomas Sowell’s “The Housing Boom And Bust.”

http://rightwingnews.com/2010/03/the-best-quotes-from-thomas-sowells-the-housing-boom-and-bust/

[JustPiper]

POLITICO BLOCK

Conservative group presses swing health care voters

Republican Rep. Nathan Deal announced Monday that he will resign from Congress to focus on competing for his party's nomination for governor of Georgia.

Deal to resign March 8

Nine House Dems could switch votes -- W.H. reaches out to Coburn

Pelosi confident she'll get enough votes for reconciliation -- Conrad: 'Reconciliation cannot be used' to pass major reform bill -- Pelosi: 'No public option on the table'

Warren Buffett would scrap health care bill

House GOP aims to remove Charlie Rangel's gavel

Pete Stark's bizarre ethics interview

Skelton seeks distance on cap and trade

Coats leads Ellsworth by one point

Griffith spot slams 'dangerous' Obama

[JustPiper]

NR BLOCK

Here’s my anecdote: DNC’s ’seminar caller’ campaign was an embarrassing disaster

Killing ManBearPig the Alinsky Way

I don’t read the New York Times. If I want to get my fill of progressive propaganda and nasty smears of the American people, I can read any number of progressive bloggers who do it faster, more frequently, and with a lot more style and wit.

Look Out, Frank Rich! It’s a Very Small Facebook Mob!

Fascists in North Carolina

What The? SEIU Boss Andy Stern On A Deficit Reduction Panel?

Nancy Pelosi: Madame Double-Talk

[Sparky21555]

Thank you for the ping.

This entire thread is an epic read. Between the links and comments it takes several hours to finish a page. I hope you, or no one else for that fact, minds if I archive for further perusal.

Good thing I stocked up on duct tape!

[stephenjohnbanker]

Thanks Arthur.

[JustPiper]

Hi sweetheart! This is just the tip, Sparkachu! the real deal is here

The first 20 posts are the opener

THREAT MATRIX: 2010 #2

If you put this in a search for anything terror related/survival, TM will show up. Why just tonight on google I put in a search for my pet project,Jamaat ul-Fuqra and google immediately took me to our new TM thread, we are quite respected after nearly 7 years, -g- Check this out

Then on survival:

HERE

Lesson I on Urban Survival Plan

Urban Survival Plan---LESSON 2

Being Prepared to Survive on Your Own-PART I

PART II---Food

[JustPiper]

BTW I put links at group too -g-

[JustPiper]

WASHINGTON (AP) Rangel denies he is stepping down from House Ways and Means chairmanship.

(Get a Pelosi Workout)VIDEO:Sweatin' With the Socialists

Harold Ford: Democrats are 'scared'

NAACP Image Award Reaches New Low BY Lloyd Marcus

China holds more U.S. debt than indicated

Van Jones-Czar: Education to make students 'revolutionaries.' [Jaw-dropping!]

Join First-Ever Online Tax Revolt: Let Your Voice be Heard in Washington by Joe “The Plumber” Wurzelbacher

Senator Bunning Denies The Unemployed Again! He Blames Senator Reid

[JustPiper]

Are We Financing Our Own Demise?

Lieberman of 2009 From SEIU
In 1995, Joe Lieberman co-sponsored legislation to curtail use of the filibuster. Now, in 2009, he's single-handledly using the threat of a filibuster to delay and disrupt the legislative process. It's time for Joe to listen to Joe, and let Connecticut residents have a voice on health insurance reform.

Joe Lieberman of 1995 vs. Joe 2009

SEIU Thugs on You Tube

The core audience is African Americans and the African world and their allies in the movement for economic justice, social justice and peace. It is also important to share Black American and African world perspectives with the rest of the world, a mission uniquely suited to the Internet.
Our focus is commentary, analysis and investigation, elements of political dialogue that are absolutely essential to the creation of movements for social change. Without regular forums for advocacy and debate, a people are at the mercy of their adversaries.

HEADS UP NJ! The Black Commentator

Video: UK representative in the EU parliament, Nigel Farage, exposes dangers of socialism in Europe.

[philetus]

Someone forwarded this to me.

Dear
> Mr. President,
>
> Please find below my suggestion for
> fixing America ‘s
> Economy.
>
>
> Instead
>
> of giving Billions of dollars to
> companies that will
> squander the money on lavish parties and unearned
> bonuses, use the
> following plan. You can call it the
> “Patriotic
> Retirement
>
> Plan “:
>
>
> There are about 40 million people over 50 in the work
> force.
> Pay them $1 million apiece
> severance for early
> retirement with the following stipulations:
>
> 1) They
> MUST retire. Forty million job
> openings - Unemployment
> fixed.
>
> 2) They MUST buy a new American CAR .
> Forty million cars ordered - Auto Industry
> fixed.
>
> 3)
> They MUST either buy a house or pay off
> their
> mortgage - Housing Crisis fixed.
>
> It can’t get any easier
> than that!!
>
>
> P.S.. If more money is needed, have all members
> in Congress pay their taxes...
>
> Mr. President, while you’re at
> it, make Congress retire on Social Security and
> Medicare. I’ll bet both
> programs would be fixed pronto!
>

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Thank you!

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

[Big red letters in Drudge]
OBAMA TO TRIGGER NUKE OPTION ON HEALTHCARE
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/03/obama-democrats-will-use-reconciliation-to-pass-senate-health-care-bill.html
[How many stakes must we drive in this vampire’s heart?]

JustPiper’s Latest Links on the ObamaCare vampire:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=830#830

Other links and headlines coming up:

Another new twist in birth certificate story: Hawaii “paper copy was destroyed in a fire”

Obama is investigating Soros over currency speculation

Obama-nomics headlines [$7 gas and 30 more days of unemployment]

Plenty of loony left/thugocracy shockers [such as Walpingate]

Five European states back burka ban; Voters support push by Sarkozy

AP: Rove admits to error on Iraq as Bush strategist

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