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Orly Taitz - Defendents oppose transfer of case (Quo Warranto to DC )
Oil Immigration.org ^ | January 11th, 2010 | David-Crockett

Posted on 01/11/2010 12:47:03 PM PST by Red Steel

It is my best guess that Obama’s attorneys figured that once Judge Carter dismissed it was over… far from it! Orly has come back with a strong offense. For sure the Justice Department (Obama, et al) is doing its best to stop Judge Carter from approving the transfer to Judge Lamberth in Washington DC. Orly filed a nice response to their opposition.

Below are some highlighted excerpts from the filing:



Orly has pointed out that Judge Carter promised to hear the case on its merits. The Justice Department defending Obama conned the Judge into dismissing and used the excuse of “jurisdiction” claiming only Quo Warranto can be brought in Washington DC.



Orly said, “fine, let’s move the case.” She is asking Judge Carter to move the case to Judge Lamberth’s court in DC. This would serve to best expedite the case, including discovery.



Orly is making sure that Judge Carter is aware of the fact that the Justice Department and Eric Holder have been stalling for many months now. An original Quo Warranto was filed in Judge Taylor’s Washington DC court (he has since retired.. couldn’t stand the heat in my opinion).. that was back in March, 2009. The Justice Department has done everyting in its power to stall, hide, ignore the case..



Orly is telling the Judge that the longer he waits to allow “we the people” to seek justice in court the more damage that Obama does to our Country. The Justice Department is basically defending a Usuper in office.. the entire system appears to be corrupt.. of course, Eric Holder is simply a puppet for Obama.



We hope and pray that Judge Carter allows this case to be transferred.. Obama will have a much tougher time getting the case dismissed in Washington DC if Carter allows the transfer.. Any kind of ruling against Obama will set a precedent that could literally force the Court into action.




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To: Star Traveler
Now, the peculiar thing about that -- is that I've read a few posts elsewhere on Free Republic (over the months...) that have said that to get a passport that you have to have a long form birth certificate, while others said no you didn't. And if a state does not issue long form birth certificates -- does that mean that those people in that state (who were born there) cannot get U.S. passports?

Only in some cases, a couple of states, and some localities in others, is a long form necessary. It depends on what is on the short form, and it's accuracy. In one case the "place" shown was not the place of birth, which is absolutely required for a passport based on citizenship by birth in the US.

221 posted on 01/11/2010 8:45:27 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Star Traveler
The statement by the State of Hawaii, of course, is not my own, but that's a matter of an official statement and a matter of record,

It may be a matter of record, but it's not legal evidence. The statement was not given under oath nor submitted to any court. Neither has the supposed COLB posted on Daily KOS, etc. The so called "Smith" Kenyan birth certificate was at least submitted as evidence to a court, and was accompanied by a witnessed affidavit. Legally it would have more weight than some "press release" and an image of something purporting to be a COLB.

222 posted on 01/11/2010 8:51:35 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Star Traveler
In addition, it's kind of hard to distort the fact that the entire Congress certified the Electoral College vote last year when they all met in session for that purpose

They certified the vote count, not the candidates. You'll find nothing from Congress declaring that Obama is actually eligible to the Office.

223 posted on 01/11/2010 8:58:21 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive
A Certificate of Live Birth would have sufficed.

Obama hssn't shown one of those either. He fights in court to not show it. An image on website doesn't count. Especially one with as many "defects" as the ones shown on KOS, Annenberg Factcheck, etc.

My own theory is that if it were admitted as evidence in Court, it would be legal proof that his father was Barrack H. Obama, a citizen of Kenya and not a US citizen. Although BHO Jr's books say that BHO sr is his father, as does "grandmother" Sarah, but those are hearsay, not legal evidence.

224 posted on 01/11/2010 9:12:12 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Star Traveler
When the State of Hawaii says that Obama was born in Hawaii, I see no "wiggle room" to later be able to show that he wasn't born in Hawaii from that statement..

That's not quite what she said. She said she has "seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i".

So all it would take is some indication that the "official vital records" were fraudulently filed, presumably to obtain US citizen for a child that otherwise would not be a US Citizen, at least without some long drawn out paperwork at least.

225 posted on 01/11/2010 9:20:39 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping!


226 posted on 01/11/2010 9:27:52 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Star Traveler
And no, I think if anyone were called upon to verify those records, from her department, and what they have from the State of Hawaii, it would be the head of the department for the State of Hawaii who is charged with producing a certified copy of such a record in the first place

Any statement she made about the authenticity of a certified copy of the birth certificate, long or short form, that was produced for the Court, would have to be witnessed and probably made under oath.

A press release would not cut it. Nor would the statement itself, without the accompanying document.

The fact is that the long form/original BC contains more, and more verifiable information than the short form. About the only thing that could be verified from the short form was the parents address, which World Daily Verified was occupied by Stanley Ann, her parents, but not BHO Sr, who had another residence closer to the university. They used a city directory published at the time for this purpose.

227 posted on 01/11/2010 9:28:17 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Drew68; rolling_stone
"If the SC doesn't do their job, why should I continue to pay taxes and obey laws?

Who says the Supreme Court didn't do their job? They visited the citizenship issue more than a century ago with Kim Wong Ark. Just because a group of people want them to revisit the issue (and construct a ruling that would disqualify Obama) doesn't mean SCOTUS is obligated to do so."

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SCOTUS, in ARK, did not address the question of who is an NBC as a requirement for Article II section 1 clause 5.

228 posted on 01/11/2010 9:33:13 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Red Steel

Log on-orrhea.

Sort of like the runs whenever it logs on.


229 posted on 01/11/2010 9:38:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Drew68

http://hesnotmypresident.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/natural-born-citizen-chapter-6-u-s-v-wong-kim-ark/

Tell me about this Justice Gray..who is he who appointed him? Are 100 year old precedents set in stone or can they change with a different SC? Was Obama’s father a permanent legtal resident of the USA, like Kim Wong Ark’s? Keep dreaming Drew68


230 posted on 01/11/2010 9:41:45 PM PST by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Drew68
There will be a presidential election in 2012

Well, they have those in Venezuela too, and they had elections in the old Soviet Union too. So?

After all if one part of Section II of the Constitution can be ignored by BHO and his enablers, why not other parts, as modified by the XIIth and XXth amendments?

231 posted on 01/11/2010 9:51:31 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: humblegunner
Shame he’s gotten mixed up with that nut, Taitz

He's not, he is "mixed up" with Philip Berg, being his co-counsel on "Hollister verses Soetero" where they are fighing various lawyers from Perkins-Coie, LLP who are representing Soetero/Obama.

232 posted on 01/11/2010 10:05:44 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Star Traveler
You're making an assumption that the State of Hawaii would make an official pronouncement like that, affecting the nation -- without running it through qualified lawyers that the State of Hawaii has to look at those very issues... :-)

By law, including federal law as they interpret it, the Offial of the State of Hawaii is not supposed to be revealing anything from the Birth Certificate. At least not without the permission of the principal, in this case The One. But she did. So I would not put much faith in the lawyers of the Hawaiian Health Department.

233 posted on 01/11/2010 10:12:00 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: EveningStar
Leaving aside the birth certificate, and some possible double-speak by Dr. Fukino, she is not authorized to usurp the powers of the Supreme Court of the US to determine who is and who is not a “natural born citizen,” even if born in HI, unless that person’s birth certificate showed that both parents were born in the USA

Of course it could show that one or both parents were NOT born in the US, and the person could still be a natural born citizen, if the parent(s) were naturalized before the birth, but that information would not be on the BC, only the parents' places of birth. Some state's BC's might show parents' citizenship, but the 1961 version of Hawaii did not.

234 posted on 01/11/2010 10:15:32 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Drew68
They visited the citizenship issue more than a century ago with Kim Wong Ark.

Which was about citizenship by birth in the US, not about Natural born citizenship. The only place it mentions NBC is when it, in a quotation, compares the child of alien, born in the US, to the natural-born child of a citizen, stating that both have the same rights, but also indicating that they are not the same thing.

But being eligible to the Office of President is not a right. If it were how could it be denied to naturalized citizens?).

235 posted on 01/11/2010 10:26:05 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
"He's not, he is "mixed up" with Philip Berg, being his co-counsel on "Hollister verses Soetero" where they are fighing various lawyers from Perkins-Coie, LLP who are representing Soetero/Obama."

If I'm not mistaken, Berg isn't on the case anymore. They are not co-counsel's.

236 posted on 01/11/2010 10:52:44 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: El Gato
"But being eligible to the Office of President is not a right. If it were how could it be denied to naturalized citizens?). "

Most excellent point.

237 posted on 01/11/2010 10:56:58 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Star Traveler

Save your breath. You’re not making a bit of difference here.


238 posted on 01/12/2010 2:46:35 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Red Steel
She still has a license to practice law despite her critic’s efforts

I belive thr CA Bar is working on that.

239 posted on 01/12/2010 4:39:03 AM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Red Steel

All threads are open for discussion, genius.


240 posted on 01/12/2010 5:33:25 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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