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Book: Obama, Biden clashed in '08 [“How many times is Biden gonna say something stupid?”.......]
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Posted on 01/09/2010 4:38:28 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Book: Obama, Biden clashed in '08 By: Jonathan Martin January 9, 2010 06:11 PM EST

The relationship between Barack Obama and Joe Biden grew so strained during the 2008 campaign, according to a new book, that the two rarely spoke and aides not only kept Biden off internal conference calls but refused to even tell him they existed.

Instead, a separate campaign call was regularly scheduled between the then-Delaware senator and two of Obama’s top campaign aides – “so that they could keep a tight rein on him,” write journalists Mark Halperin and John Heilemann in “Game Change,” a long-awaited account of the 2008 campaign.

The book, based on over 300 interviews, reveals a series of previously undisclosed stories about the epic race. POLITICO obtained it Saturday at a Washington bookstore.

In addition to the discord between the president and vice-president, the authors write:

–Before the 2004 Democratic presidential primary, party strategists Mark Penn and Mandy Grunwald, both then working for Sen. Joe Lieberman’s presidential candidacy, met secretly with then-Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and a group of her closest confidantes to consider a last-minute entry into the race – and even polled New Hampshire voters about the idea. Ultimately, though, Chelsea Clinton persuaded her mother to opt out of a run, arguing that voters wouldn’t forgive her for breaking a pledge to serve a full Senate term.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bookreview; gamechange; vpbiden
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1 posted on 01/09/2010 4:38:28 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama and Biden deserve each other.


2 posted on 01/09/2010 4:39:44 PM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: keats5

The devil and the dope.


3 posted on 01/09/2010 4:42:14 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Sub-Driver
I say, fewer than the Big O himself.

ML/NJ

4 posted on 01/09/2010 4:47:11 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Carley

They tried to get Hillary to run in ‘04? Interesting. I wonder if she could have beaten Bush. Scary thought, but if she had we wouldn’t have this nightmare in the White House today. Chelsea didn’t think voters would forgive her mother for not serving a full term in the Senate? Ha. Seems like most Demo voters will forgive *anything.*


5 posted on 01/09/2010 4:48:21 PM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: Sub-Driver

Reading these excerpts makes one wonder how any democrat gets elected for anything. These people are stupid and/or evil. No wonder the media dumps on Gov. Palin, it’s all to distract the public from the idiots they keep propping up for office.


6 posted on 01/09/2010 4:49:21 PM PST by rabidralph ("Precedenting" is a lot tougher than community organizing.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Same amount as you Obama are going to do something stupid.


7 posted on 01/09/2010 4:56:36 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Sub-Driver

Too funny.

“How many times is Biden gonna say something stupid?”

Hey Øbozo, how long is it going to take before you realize that the contempt that you showed for biden is identical to the contempt that was shown to you at COP15?!


8 posted on 01/09/2010 4:59:29 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Epic race” then,

EPIC FAIL now...


9 posted on 01/09/2010 5:02:49 PM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

In many cases recently, Biden saying something “stupid” meant “true”.


10 posted on 01/09/2010 5:18:01 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Carley

“The devil and the dope.”

More like Pinky and The Brain!


11 posted on 01/09/2010 5:21:13 PM PST by GWMcClintock ("When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?" Ps.11:3)
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To: Sub-Driver

No offense, but who cares? Biden is nothing but a purposeful distraction from the Stimulus Slush Fund which is there to keep Dems/Obama in power indefinitely. Can you say Chavez? SEIU, ACORN...in the grand scheme of things, we talk about Biden...can we see how he is nothing but a purposeful distraction? Cloward & Piven???


12 posted on 01/09/2010 5:23:48 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: TNCMAXQ

The dems loved the swimmer. Murderer that he was.

They love their former KKK grand wizard. No character flaw is troublesome to the left.


13 posted on 01/09/2010 5:28:31 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: rabidralph
Reading these excerpts makes one wonder how any democrat gets elected for anything. These people are stupid and/or evil.

Especially when you realize the ones reporting these stupid and/or evil events actually support the people who did them.

The MSM is as thoroughly corrupted as the Democrat party.

14 posted on 01/09/2010 5:36:37 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Sub-Driver

“aides not only kept Biden off internal conference calls but refused to even tell him they existed.”

Words cannot describe how much I laughed at this. :)


15 posted on 01/09/2010 5:49:54 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (Nobody move, Nobody get hurt)
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To: rockrr

“How many times is Biden gonna say something stupid?”

Every time he opens his mouth. He is the poster child for “A mind is a terrible thing to waste”.


16 posted on 01/09/2010 5:50:23 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Carley

The Donks love B Clinton, even though Clinton said Oboma would be getting us coffee a few years ago.

Donks only hate conservatives, they are terrified of us.

Never fear a Donk, they are weak & filled with hate.

Their only ambition is power, Confront them. They run from Facts.

They run from God.


17 posted on 01/09/2010 5:57:24 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: TNCMAXQ
That's total BS.
Charles Baron screwed up Hillary's campaign in August of 02 when he gave away the secret of her dirty tricks campaign.

You might recall during Bill Clinton's impeachment Hillary had a threat to release some FBI files. It was called the “Scorched Earth Policy”. One of the files she threatened to release was my file. First hand knowledge of what the scorched earth policy is.

In August of 02 during the rally for the reparations for slavery, Charles Baron said if there wasn't reparations for slavery there would be Scorched Earth, meaning race riots.

Hillary intended to do a repeat of the 1992 LA race riots that launched Bill Clinton into the WH.

The premise of the “Scorched Earth Policy” comes from Bill Aryes book “Prairie Fire”.

Find an incident, a spark to ignite the flame ratchet it up to a raging inferno.

18 posted on 01/09/2010 6:21:50 PM PST by IMR 4350
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19 posted on 01/09/2010 6:36:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Biden’s only qualification for VP was that he made even Barack Obama look like a serious candidate.


20 posted on 01/09/2010 6:37:09 PM PST by MitchellC
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