Attorney Stephen Pidgeon to Glenn Beck

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[Man50D]

Attorney Stephen Pidgeon is one of the lawyers involved in the B.C. issue. He is currently working with Leo Donofrio on the Chrysler lawsuit. Below is his letter to Glenn Beck. Great job, Stephen! S.B.

Dear Mr. Beck:

You are ill-informed on the “birther” issue. Barack Obama, by his own admission, was a British subject at birth. He has never denied having a Kenyan father, who himself was a British subject as a Kenyan native. This is easly established under the British Nationality Act of 1948. He is therefore disqualified to run for the office of the President, because the office is not available to subjects of other governments. The issue is very simple, and very obvious. Obama himself admitted that he wasn’t a natural born citizen when he debated Alan Keyes in 2004.

Let’s see you deal with this one. There is nothing “nutty” about it, and it doesn’t depend on whether his maternal grandmother tried to cover up a foreign birth in Hawaii by placing newspaper notices. It is as plain as your face. BHO is a foreign national first, and an American secondarily, if at all. That is why he thinks there are 57 states; why he doesn’t understand the constitution; why he wants to give us Britain’s health care system (it’s all in the teeth, don’t you know); why he thinks Interpol should have greater authority in the US than US law enforcement; etc. He is a British subject and has no business holding the office of POTUS.

If you think you can overlook this constitutional crisis as not part of the Rubicon, you are mistaken. One constitutional overlook breeds another and the next thing you know, the financial industry is nationalized, the auto industry is nationalized, the health care industry is about to be nationalized, and the energy industry will soon be nationalized.

Ultimately, it is all going to be okay, because socialism only lasts until other people’s money (OPM) runs out, and binge spender BHO has spent all the money we have and all the money we will ever have for the next several generations. He spent all of this before he got his socialist healthcare on the table. He and his wife have partied like Eddie Murphy in The Distinguished Gentleman (1992) since taking office, while he has busied himself with overthrowing the constitutional republic, establishing a new Islamic empire worldwide, disarming and crippling America, and unilaterally dividing Israel and Jerusalem. The only budget constraint for Obama is ink and paper (and he is working his way around that) and his foreign policy advisor appears to be “mirror, mirror on the wall”. He has bankrupted the nation, which the sleeping Oprah watchers are now discovering for the very first time. The reality of the bankruptcy will hit home with gusto in 2010. Not only will we suffer with 30% unemployment, a complete collapse of real estate, and a complete collapse of the dollar, we will also suffer the slings and arrows of dramatic military defeats, as we let this foreigner steer the ship of state. Most Americans have no idea how bad it is going to get.

As for Obama: he will be one of history’s most reviled figures – on a par with Nero – as a fool who couldn’t even understand that when he denigrated the United States, he was destroying the very state upon which his safety and his legacy depended. He will suffer dramatic defeat in Afghanistan and Iraq – it will not be like Viet Nam, and his name will be tarred with it. It will be more like the disastrous defeat of Xerxes at Salamis, or the Ottomans at Sisek, or the Moors at Tours; a game changing defeat that will forever cement the destiny of the republic known as the United States of America. Obama will join the other names in history who suffered cataclysmic losses in the lands of Magog.

His legacy? A communist, collectivist fool, brainwashed by red diaper doper babies haunting the halls of ivy league academia whose agenda was to bring back the failed Bolshevik revolution worldwide, who brought his fully bloomed ignorance to power illegally in the US because of the needs of his narcissistic ego, whose illegitimacy caused the US to go bankrupt and to suffer its worst military setbacks in the history of the nation in just a few short months. History will marvel at the foolishness of Americans, and historians will wonder how we as a people could have allowed this to happen. Then, of course, historians will ultimately conclude that the demise of the greatest nation the world had ever known happened because the watchdogs whose duty it was to warn Americans of such possibilities – the so-called news media – conspired with foreign powers and global financial criminals to destroy America from the inside, as a result of their cowardice, malevolence and silence.

Contributing member: Glenn Beck, who simply could not bring himself to utter the truth about Obama – that he is a usurper, holding the presidency illegally and unconstitutionally, because he is without a legal birthright. Let us never forget who shirked their duty to tell the truth in these last hours, and let us not allow history to forget.

STEPHEN PIDGEON

[MHGinTN]

Your hatred of those questioning your pres_ _ent is coloring your mind. Maybe the kneepads are too tight?

[Drew68]

Yet oddly all of you Obot anti-birthers are drawn to the Birther threads like flies to dog poop...

Now why do you think that is???

I'll tell you why.

A.) I'm doing my part to keep conservatism from being co-opted by unhinged conspiracy nuts.

B.) It's fun.

[Drew68]

Wishing this requirement is a "fictional device created by birthers" does not make it so, any more than a global warming alarmist - wishing the earth was heating up to further their agenda - will make it so. As you can see, we are in the midst of a brutal winter,

So, not buying this birther nonsense makes me a default believer in man-made global warming?

That's pretty desperate, trying to piggyback the birther crusade on the shoulders of the global warming myth.

[thecraw]

Yet oddly all of you Obot anti-birthers are drawn to the Birther threads like flies to dog poop...

A.) I'm doing my part to keep conservatism from being co-opted by unhinged conspiracy nuts.

Yep. You and RINOs like Lindsey Grahamnesty are doing a bang-up job. Congratulations!

B.) It's fun.

Makes me wonder if you Obots playing Birther Whack-a-Mole have as much fun as the flies have landing on the dog poop...

[LorenC]

Your hatred of those questioning your pres_ _ent is coloring your mind.

If you're insisting that those imaginary Senate hearings were actually real, then it's your mind that's being colored by hatred.

[newheart]

Yet oddly all of you Obot anti-birthers are drawn to the Birther threads like flies to dog poop...

I am in no way an Obot. And you may be surprised to hear that I am not anti-birther. I do keep looking for more persuasive evidence and genuinely try to keep an open mind. But for some reason, as soon as I raise a question that might challenge birther orthodoxy I get slammed as some kind of Obomanoid. Name calling seldom persuades anyone so I wonder if people just prefer to stir things up or if they really want to convince others of the correctness of their view.

[MHGinTN]

Perhaps you would like to post the link to the Senate resolution generated by Leahy’s committee? ... You’re hatred is so unlovely.

[MHGinTN]

Below is osme of the text, just to help you out, hateful:

[Emphasis mine, not underlined in the Congressional record]
RESOLUTION

Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ of the United States;

Whereas the term ‘‘natural born Citizen’’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;

Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to American citizens serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country’s President;

Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term ‘‘natural born Citizen’’;

Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;

Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and

Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.

Statement Of Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.),

Chairman, Committee On The Judiciary,

On The Introduction Of A Senate Resolution

April 10, 2008

Today I join Senator Claire McCaskill in introducing a resolution to express the common sense of everyone here that Senator McCain is a “natural born Citizen,” as the term is used in the Constitution of the United States. Our Constitution contains three requirements for a person to be eligible to be President – the person must have reached the age of 35; must have resided in America for 14 years; and must be a ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ of the United States. Certainly there is no doubt that Senator McCain is of sufficient years on this earth and in this country given that he has been serving in Washington for over 25 years. However, some pundits have raised the question of whether he is a “natural born Citizen” because he was born outside of the official borders of the United States.

John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American Naval base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936. [For those paying attention, this is precisely fit to the Vattel definition, so leaky went further, to try and undermine the very definition from the founders!] Numerous legal scholars have looked into the purpose and intent of the “natural born Citizen” requirement. As far as I am aware, no one has unearthed any reason to think that the Framers would have wanted to limit the rights of children born to military families stationed abroad or that such a limited view would serve any noble purpose enshrined in our founding document. Based on the understanding of the pertinent sources of constitutional meaning, it is widely believed that if someone is born to American citizens anywhere in the world they are natural born citizens.

It is interesting to note that another previous presidential candidate, George Romney, was also born outside of the United States. He was widely understood to be eligible to be President. Senator Barry Goldwater was born in a U.S territory that later became the State of Arizona so some even questioned his eligibility. Certainly the millions of Americans who voted for these two Republican candidates believed that they were eligible to assume the office of the President. The same is true today.

Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen. I recently asked Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, a former Federal judge, if he had any doubts in his mind. He did not. I ask unanimous consent that the relevant excerpt from the Judiciary Committee hearing where Secretary Chertoff testified be made a part of the record.

[old curmudgeon]

You are writing about or thinking about people with character.

Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, has no character.

You might as well believe that a pedophile is going to reform because he has been publicly shamed.

There are some people that have no shame and no sensitivity for how others see them.

Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, is one of them. As for the joint chiefs of staff, I am not up on all of that but I do know that the chairman and the vice chairman are appointed by the president. I am not certain how the chiefs of staff of the various services are appointed tot hat position, but I believe they are also appointed by the president. I believe the chiefs of staff of the various branches of the military are also appointed by the president and confirmed by the senate. So all Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, has to do is get him a new club it the old club does not like him.

[wintertime]

Yes, there are two kinds of citizens— natural born and naturalized. Anyone born in the U.S. is a natural-born citizen.
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Yep! We've seen that DOJ obfuscation before. It has be thoroughly refuted hundreds of times here on Free Republic. Go look it up.

[thecraw]

So, not buying this birther nonsense makes me a default believer in man-made global warming? That's pretty desperate, trying to piggyback the birther crusade on the shoulders of the global warming myth.

You betcha. But here are the facts, according to actual logic and truth:

1. The man-made global warming conspiracy came about from falsified data.
2. The Birth Certificate conspiracy (your words, not ours) came about from falsified data.

(Of course you'll deny #2 because your boy Barry is your hero. You believe that the glorious birth certificate on Factcheck is beyond reproach.)

Therefore, according to Obot anti-birther logic...
1. Man-made global warming deniers are kooks.
2. Birthers are kooks.

Now, we'll take your logic to the next level, therefore...
1. Drew68 (and other Obot anti-birthers that are attracted to birther threads like flies to dog poop) unquestionably believe that man-made global warming is real.
2. Drew68 (and other Obot anti-birthers that are attracted to birther threads like flies to dog poop) unquestionably believe that Obama is a Natural Born Citizen.

Logic is a wonderful thing, ain't it??? Now who are the kooks?

Yep. You betcha. You guys are...

[thecraw]

I am in no way an Obot.

According to the Bush Doctrine, "you are either with us or against us."

So there are Birthers, and there are Obot anti-birthers.

Drew68 enjoys playing Birther Whack-a-Mole, and we Birthers enjoy whacking back! Troll hunting is quite entertaining...

[newheart]

Drew68 enjoys playing Birther Whack-a-Mole, and we Birthers enjoy whacking back! Troll hunting is quite entertaining...

Then I suppose Drew68 and I will be forced into re-education camps when you and MHGinTN are able to effect your revolution.

[thecraw]

Then I suppose Drew68 and I will be forced into re-education camps when you and MHGinTN are able to effect your revolution.

In the words of Sarah Palin...
You Betcha!

/sarc

[SuzyQue]

Thanks Uncle for at least providing me with something that can be researched. I will follow up on that.

I'll be interested in what you find out. If you find something definitive would you post it, please? Facts and clarity are wonderful things!

[SuzyQue]

Speaking of tactics, it’s almost Alinsky-like:

5th Rule - “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule.”

13th Rule - “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it.”

Just two examples. Interesting stuff.

[thecraw]

But in all seriousness, for some "red meat" on the eligibility issue keep an eye on D'Onofrio and Pidgeon's suits representing 21 Chrysler dealers who lost their franchises due to Barry's actions. A Quo Warranto filing (the proper way to legally challenge a usurper to public office) is part of this deal and will be brought in the DC District Court in the days to come.

Report is here:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/26/donofrio-pidgeon-file-motion-for-reconsideration-in-chrysler-case/

This is the best hope for getting to the truth of Barry's shady past. Leo D'Onofrio also posts pertinent updates to his blog site here:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

The truth will prevail, in its time...

[LorenC]

That's not the text of a hearing; it's just the text of Senator Leahy introducing the resolution. And there's certainly no inquiry into "whether he was born on American land," as you specifically alleged there was, earlier in this thread. Nor was McCain ever asked to produce a birth certificate or any other evidence, as has been claimed at other times when people cite that "hearings" were held about McCain.

And do you know how minor what you quoted is? It appears in the Congressional Record directly inbetween the submission of "SENATE RESOLUTION 510—SUPPORTING THE GOALS AND IDEALS OF NATIONAL CYSTIC FIBROSIS AWARENESS MONTH" and "SENATE RESOLUTION 512—HONORING THE LIFE OF CHARLTON HESTON." I'm sure hearings were held on both.

Heck, the text you've cited doesn't appear to have even been read aloud in the Senate; it was just submitted into the record as written, along with all the other resolutions. Watch the video for yourself. In other words: no hearings.

[Man50D]

You do notice that in the same sentence where "the Law of Nations" is capitalized, the words "Piracies and Felonies," "Seas," and "Offenses" are also capitalized?

Your reasoning isn't worth one red cent. You do understand by capitalized it means all the letters in LAWS OF NATIONS are capitalized whereas none of the other words are completely capitalized?

Second, for the sake of argument, let's assume your interpretation of Vattel's statements on citizenship inheritance are correct.

It's not my interpretation. The definition is in his book (Vattel, Law of Nations, Book 1, Chapter 19) paragraph 212 sentence 2.

Moreover, let's assume for the sake of argument that since the adoption of the Constitution, that interpretation has been the correct one when it comes to Constitutional interpretation of "natural born citizen."

It's not an assumption. In 1874, the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed Vattel's definition of "natural born citizen. To quote SCOTUS's ruling:

"At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

So, assuming both of those to be true, why did it take a year and a half of primary campaigning for ANYBODY to realize and argue that Obama was Constitutionally ineligible based on his father's citizenship? How did the entire country, all of conservative America, and the entirety of Obama's Democratic opposition simply slip up and fail to apply this standard, even though all the relevant facts were publicly known, and had been published in Obama's own memoir in 1995?

It was no slip up by the DNC. They knew what they were doing. Each party signs a Nomination Document attesting to the fact their candidate meets the requirements, including natural born citizen, to become President. The DNC prepared two nomination documents. One document(DNC-1) included the "Constitutional" certification within the declaration:

"THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 through 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.

This document was filed only with the state of Hawaii. Another version of the document was sent to the other 49 states with the red highlighted Constitutional certification portion above redacted to read:

This is to certify that the National Convention of the Democrat party of the United States of America, held in Denver Colorado on August 25 through 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively".

The two separate Nomination Certifications are complete with date stamps, matching signatures, even the same Notary of Public authentication.

Below are images of the two versions. The first is with the Constitutional Certification and the second image is without the Constitutional Certification:





The 50th State, Hawaii, is a mystery as to why the DNC submitted the Constitutional Certification. It is assumed the State of Hawaii demanded the wording be included in the Certification. However, by filing this Constitutional "version" with Hawaii and not the other 49 States it ADDS to the fraud, conspiracy and guilt. Why would the DNC even prepare (2) documents? The issue still remains, Obama is not a "natural born" citizen and the vetting of him by the DNC was misrepresented and fraudulent.

[MHGinTN]

Kudos for your patience ... but you don’t expect obamanoid buttboyC to respond with reasoned debate, do you?