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To: LorenC
You do notice that in the same sentence where "the Law of Nations" is capitalized, the words "Piracies and Felonies," "Seas," and "Offenses" are also capitalized?

Your reasoning isn't worth one red cent. You do understand by capitalized it means all the letters in LAWS OF NATIONS are capitalized whereas none of the other words are completely capitalized?

Second, for the sake of argument, let's assume your interpretation of Vattel's statements on citizenship inheritance are correct.

It's not my interpretation. The definition is in his book (Vattel, Law of Nations, Book 1, Chapter 19) paragraph 212 sentence 2.

Moreover, let's assume for the sake of argument that since the adoption of the Constitution, that interpretation has been the correct one when it comes to Constitutional interpretation of "natural born citizen."

It's not an assumption. In 1874, the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed Vattel's definition of "natural born citizen. To quote SCOTUS's ruling:

"At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

So, assuming both of those to be true, why did it take a year and a half of primary campaigning for ANYBODY to realize and argue that Obama was Constitutionally ineligible based on his father's citizenship? How did the entire country, all of conservative America, and the entirety of Obama's Democratic opposition simply slip up and fail to apply this standard, even though all the relevant facts were publicly known, and had been published in Obama's own memoir in 1995?

It was no slip up by the DNC. They knew what they were doing. Each party signs a Nomination Document attesting to the fact their candidate meets the requirements, including natural born citizen, to become President. The DNC prepared two nomination documents. One document(DNC-1) included the "Constitutional" certification within the declaration:

"THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 through 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.

This document was filed only with the state of Hawaii. Another version of the document was sent to the other 49 states with the red highlighted Constitutional certification portion above redacted to read:

This is to certify that the National Convention of the Democrat party of the United States of America, held in Denver Colorado on August 25 through 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively".

The two separate Nomination Certifications are complete with date stamps, matching signatures, even the same Notary of Public authentication.

Below are images of the two versions. The first is with the Constitutional Certification and the second image is without the Constitutional Certification:





The 50th State, Hawaii, is a mystery as to why the DNC submitted the Constitutional Certification. It is assumed the State of Hawaii demanded the wording be included in the Certification. However, by filing this Constitutional "version" with Hawaii and not the other 49 States it ADDS to the fraud, conspiracy and guilt. Why would the DNC even prepare (2) documents? The issue still remains, Obama is not a "natural born" citizen and the vetting of him by the DNC was misrepresented and fraudulent.
239 posted on 01/06/2010 8:04:35 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

Kudos for your patience ... but you don’t expect obamanoid buttboyC to respond with reasoned debate, do you?


240 posted on 01/06/2010 8:49:33 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Man50D
Your reasoning isn't worth one red cent. You do understand by capitalized it means all the letters in LAWS OF NATIONS are capitalized whereas none of the other words are completely capitalized?

That might be persuasive...if you hadn't simply made it up. All it takes is a visit to the U.S. Archives to see that you're just lying now:

Did you think I wouldn't check the actual text of Constitution, and would just assume you were telling the truth about the Founders writing in ALL CAPS?

It was no slip up by the DNC...

Ah, I see. You don't actually have an answer to why no one alleged Obama was ineligible until summer 2008, so instead you're trying to change the subject entirely to paperwork filed by the DNC in August 2008. Shrewd, but it's a technique I've seen Birthers use all too often before.

255 posted on 01/07/2010 6:14:22 AM PST by LorenC
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