Posted on 01/05/2010 7:16:47 PM PST by Man50D
And in this post, it tries to again conflate, where born with citizenship of the PARENTS. These are the usual obfuscatory ploys of the obamanoid gang at FR. Honesty is not their strong suit.
Thanks Uncle for at least providing me with something that can be researched. I will follow up on that.
Look up the logical fallacy of the undistributed middle, fool. And your hero, Eric, is too busy dexstroying your God-given rights to mess with talking points. If you get them regularly, they are probably from axelgreasy.
Bwahahahahaha, didn’t it sound so sincere? LOL
In the meantime, I will carry on this discussion with people who are willing to actually make a case instead of hurling off one supposedly clever insult after another.
Newhaeart, do your own research, it isn’t that hard.
Well, revolutionists all have different ideas about how to go about it, and sometimes it’s the combination that does the trick.
Lucyt can you send newheart the link to the BIG birther thread so he can research all 9,000 posts like the rest of us have done? This will allow him to catch up.
thx
Was/is Obama’s mother a citizen of the US? If she is, doesn’t that make him a citizen? I thought that just being a child of a citizen made you a citizen, but I am not certain. I’d like to know. On another thread, there are people saying his mother’s a citizen of the US. Just curious if anyone knows.
BTW, If you’re going to be rude, don’t bother with a reply, please, seeking out information should not be a burn-at-the-stake offense.
So, apparently you agree that Obama was born in Hawaii, and was thus born a citizen of the United States, but you believe that he also had dual Kenyan citizenship and is thus ineligible? Help me out, here.
I am sorry to say that Glenn Beck has now shown us all this fact:
Glenn is in the opposition control mode. Although he will supply the public with truths about the Communist actions of the Obama administration and Congress, he must keep the ONE TRUTH from coming out that would stop all the craziness immediately! And that TRUTH is that Barack Hussein/Barry Sortoro/Obama is not constitutionally qualified to be the Commander In Chief!
You're missing the point newheart. The Constitutional requirement for POTUS is for a "Natural Born" citizen. That has meaning only as of the moment of his birth. He even admits that he had Kenyan citizenship at birth, so how can Barry have been a Natural Born Citizen AT BIRTH?
By his own admission, he was a dual citizen at the time of his birth. And that time (which allegedly was August 4th, 1961) is the only time that matters in this discussion. Any act of law, renouncement, etc. affecting Barry's citizenship since the alleged date of his birth is meaningless. He is not Natural Born. Period.
No need at all for court decision (although would be good for the long term). Nixon resigned, more than a full 2 years after the Watergate scandal. When more people understand that he's a usurper, the Congress (save for the ultra left) will loose confidence in Barry (just like what happened to Nixon). Furthermore, I can't imagine the joint chiefs of staff publicly acknowledging that they are "OK" with taking orders from an Unconstitutional CinC.
IF his being a usurper is ignored or glossed over...it will set a precedent. Most clear thinkers thought it nearly impossible for such a "candidate" to be elected...yet he did with the help of the state run media, foreign money, uneducated voters, etc. If he is simply voted out...I can't imagine the possibilities of who might get elected in the future. His precedent must not be allowed to prevail.
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First, I'm not sure how you could possibly think that was what I was referring to in my post. Y'know, given the dozen or so references I made to Keyes, the 2004 debates, the transcripts, and the references to Pidgeon's and Kreep's comments. Versus the zero references I made to comments published on Obama's website.
Second, not to nitpick, but Obama's website didn't actually write that. They did post it on the website, but it's a quote from FactCheck.org, as evidenced by the FactCheck logo and the hyperlink to the FactCheck article directly above.
Third, you keep trying to change the subject rather than address the fact that Stephen Pidgeon put a flat-out LIE in the first paragraph of this letter of his. If you notice, Pidgeon only wrote two paragraphs about eligibility; the rest of the letter is his predictions regarding Obama's policies or his personal opinion of Obama. And smack-dab in the middle of those two eligibility paragraphs is Pidgeon citing and relying on a completely fictional incident. The man must either not check his sources and accepted this bogus rumor as truth without a modicum of factchecking, or he knows it's false and included it anyway. Take your pick.
Anything the Obama campaign quoted on a campaign website in 2008 doesn't change the fact that Steve Pidgeon has shown that he's willing to rely on imaginary incidents and make-believe evidence.
The definition of "Natural Born Citizen" that requires both parents to be U.S. citizens is nothing more than a fictional device created by birthers specifically to be a standard of eligibility that Obama could not possibly meet. As such, you'll find this definition nowhere in the Constitution or any established case law.
Hence, this event:
Followed by this one:
Wishing this requirement is a "fictional device created by birthers" does not make it so, any more than a global warming alarmist - wishing the earth was heating up to further their agenda - will make it so. As you can see, we are in the midst of a brutal winter, and this issue will catch up with Barry, in time. The Truth has a nasty way of coming to light.
Nice try though...
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Get used to it. When their conspiracy theories fall apart under the most cursory examinations, insults and personal attacks are the only cards they have left to play.
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