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Attorney Stephen Pidgeon to Glenn Beck
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Posted on 01/05/2010 7:16:47 PM PST by Man50D

Attorney Stephen Pidgeon is one of the lawyers involved in the B.C. issue. He is currently working with Leo Donofrio on the Chrysler lawsuit. Below is his letter to Glenn Beck. Great job, Stephen! S.B.

Dear Mr. Beck:

You are ill-informed on the “birther” issue. Barack Obama, by his own admission, was a British subject at birth. He has never denied having a Kenyan father, who himself was a British subject as a Kenyan native. This is easly established under the British Nationality Act of 1948. He is therefore disqualified to run for the office of the President, because the office is not available to subjects of other governments. The issue is very simple, and very obvious. Obama himself admitted that he wasn’t a natural born citizen when he debated Alan Keyes in 2004.

Let’s see you deal with this one. There is nothing “nutty” about it, and it doesn’t depend on whether his maternal grandmother tried to cover up a foreign birth in Hawaii by placing newspaper notices. It is as plain as your face. BHO is a foreign national first, and an American secondarily, if at all. That is why he thinks there are 57 states; why he doesn’t understand the constitution; why he wants to give us Britain’s health care system (it’s all in the teeth, don’t you know); why he thinks Interpol should have greater authority in the US than US law enforcement; etc. He is a British subject and has no business holding the office of POTUS.

If you think you can overlook this constitutional crisis as not part of the Rubicon, you are mistaken. One constitutional overlook breeds another and the next thing you know, the financial industry is nationalized, the auto industry is nationalized, the health care industry is about to be nationalized, and the energy industry will soon be nationalized.

Ultimately, it is all going to be okay, because socialism only lasts until other people’s money (OPM) runs out, and binge spender BHO has spent all the money we have and all the money we will ever have for the next several generations. He spent all of this before he got his socialist healthcare on the table. He and his wife have partied like Eddie Murphy in The Distinguished Gentleman (1992) since taking office, while he has busied himself with overthrowing the constitutional republic, establishing a new Islamic empire worldwide, disarming and crippling America, and unilaterally dividing Israel and Jerusalem. The only budget constraint for Obama is ink and paper (and he is working his way around that) and his foreign policy advisor appears to be “mirror, mirror on the wall”. He has bankrupted the nation, which the sleeping Oprah watchers are now discovering for the very first time. The reality of the bankruptcy will hit home with gusto in 2010. Not only will we suffer with 30% unemployment, a complete collapse of real estate, and a complete collapse of the dollar, we will also suffer the slings and arrows of dramatic military defeats, as we let this foreigner steer the ship of state. Most Americans have no idea how bad it is going to get.

As for Obama: he will be one of history’s most reviled figures – on a par with Nero – as a fool who couldn’t even understand that when he denigrated the United States, he was destroying the very state upon which his safety and his legacy depended. He will suffer dramatic defeat in Afghanistan and Iraq – it will not be like Viet Nam, and his name will be tarred with it. It will be more like the disastrous defeat of Xerxes at Salamis, or the Ottomans at Sisek, or the Moors at Tours; a game changing defeat that will forever cement the destiny of the republic known as the United States of America. Obama will join the other names in history who suffered cataclysmic losses in the lands of Magog.

His legacy? A communist, collectivist fool, brainwashed by red diaper doper babies haunting the halls of ivy league academia whose agenda was to bring back the failed Bolshevik revolution worldwide, who brought his fully bloomed ignorance to power illegally in the US because of the needs of his narcissistic ego, whose illegitimacy caused the US to go bankrupt and to suffer its worst military setbacks in the history of the nation in just a few short months. History will marvel at the foolishness of Americans, and historians will wonder how we as a people could have allowed this to happen. Then, of course, historians will ultimately conclude that the demise of the greatest nation the world had ever known happened because the watchdogs whose duty it was to warn Americans of such possibilities – the so-called news media – conspired with foreign powers and global financial criminals to destroy America from the inside, as a result of their cowardice, malevolence and silence.

Contributing member: Glenn Beck, who simply could not bring himself to utter the truth about Obama – that he is a usurper, holding the presidency illegally and unconstitutionally, because he is without a legal birthright. Let us never forget who shirked their duty to tell the truth in these last hours, and let us not allow history to forget.

STEPHEN PIDGEON


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KEYWORDS: beck; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; donofrio; gb; glennbeck; leodonofrio; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafail; stevenpidgeon
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To: JenB987
Right now, no one has the smoking gun. Meaning, no one has definitive proof. It's all circumstanstial

I don't know how you define smoking gun but the birth certificate below couldn't be more damning.


121 posted on 01/06/2010 7:32:31 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

Well, then...you found the authentic birth certificate that no one else has been able to dig up. The debate is over, right? So we don’t need anymore cries of “Show me the birth certificate!”

Why do you need Beck or Rush to report on it? Do it yourself.


122 posted on 01/06/2010 7:39:09 AM PST by JenB987
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To: JenB987
Well, then...you found the authentic birth certificate that no one else has been able to dig up. The debate is over, right? So we don’t need anymore cries of “Show me the birth certificate!”

I'm glad to see finally you accept the fact the issue birth issue is legitimate. The Kenyan birth certificate is common knowledge. It has been circulated for some time. Beck could easily obtain possession. BO is still required to either prove he is eligible per the natural born requirement in Article 2 Section 1 or leave office.
123 posted on 01/06/2010 7:47:19 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: JenB987
Perhaps you should tell U.S. Congressman Nathan Deal (GA-R) what a kook he is for challenging BO's eligibility.

FIRST TIME IN U.S. HISTORY THAT A SITTING PRESIDENT’S ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONED BY MEMBER OF CONGRES

You need to face facts. This issue is not only not going away but is growing.
124 posted on 01/06/2010 7:53:38 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D
That document carries a heading of "Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya" A couple of slight problems with that: Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar until December 12, 1963, when it became part of the newly independent Kenya. Kenya gained its independence from the United Kingdom in December of 1963, but was known as the Dominion of Kenya until December of 1964.

I think there is a significant legal case to be made regarding Obama's father's British citizenship and his mother's attained age and length of residence in Hawaii at the time of his birth, but this purported document doesn't accomplish it.

125 posted on 01/06/2010 7:57:11 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Man50D
I'm glad to see finally you accept the fact the issue birth issue is legitimate.

I always thought it was legitimate. I had already said that...twice.

The Kenyan birth certificate is common knowledge. It has been circulated for some time. Beck could easily obtain possession.

So then why are we still having this discussion? And why are we pinpointing Beck? Coulter called birthers kooks and Rush refuses to discuss the issue. The fact that people are directing their anger strictly at Glenn smells funny.

BO is still required to either prove he is eligible per the natural born requirement in Article 2 Section 1 or leave office.

Then petition the DNC, the RNC, the government...contact the people that control Obama staying in power. Not entertainment talk show hosts.
126 posted on 01/06/2010 7:57:29 AM PST by JenB987
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To: JenB987
So then why are we still having this discussion? And why are we pinpointing Beck?

Then petition the DNC, the RNC, the government...contact the people that control Obama staying in power. Not entertainment talk show hosts.


You pressure everyone who refuses to uphold the Constitution. Conservatives marched on media outlets last year concerning the latter's silence on the growing Tea party rallies. This Constitutional issue is more significant. The same tactic should be brought to bare on the media for remaining silent on a Constitutional issue that is the single most important issue of our time.
127 posted on 01/06/2010 8:08:57 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Cicero
Unfortunately, Beck was talking about something else on his show, but this plan ensured that no one else could get through on the phone. It threatened to wreck his talk show. I happen to agree that Beck and Rush should be discussing this issue, but that ain’t the way to get them to do it.

Any suggestions on how to get Rush, Beck, and the other yappers to report the facts on Obama's eligibility?

128 posted on 01/06/2010 8:15:46 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: stockpirate

You know, that “if you’re not a birther you must be a liberal troll” line has really been worn out. Get back to us when you get some new material. LOL!


129 posted on 01/06/2010 8:16:03 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Trool works for me and it says everything to conservatives on this site. It exposes you for who you really are.

A liberal troll! And we also know who most of your fellow trolls are. Scum every one of you.


130 posted on 01/06/2010 8:18:51 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate. Republicans helped)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

BTW - Sarah Palin is a birther.


131 posted on 01/06/2010 8:27:40 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate. Republicans helped)
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To: STARWISE; Brytani; LucyT; BP2; katiekins1; All
-----Original Message-----

From: Glenn Beck

Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 19:14:59

To: XXXXXXXXX- Everyone on his mailing list!

Subject: Can you pass the history quiz most Americans fail?

Yes Glen, I can. Can you pass a quiz most Americans comprehend? Article II, Section I, Clause 4 of the United States Constitution? It is plausible to say you don't.

It is obvious to me and millions of Americans, you are either ignorant of the facts, or blatantly being intellectually dishonest to your audience.

Personally, I am offended by your condescending and arrogant, flag waving misrepresentations of the Natural Born Citizen clause in the US Constitution!

I strongly suggest you read it! Until then, kiss my made in America Ass!


132 posted on 01/06/2010 8:32:52 AM PST by seekthetruth (MY PRAYER EVERY DAY OF 2010---- PSALM 109:8)
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To: television is just wrong

And continue to hold your breath while Nancy Pelosi and the dims in the House bring articles of impeachment.....


133 posted on 01/06/2010 8:41:34 AM PST by the long march
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To: roving
I happen to be listening to a radio show with Keyes as a guest. He was asked about Obama admitting He wast a natural born citizen and Keyes HIMSELF said he doesn’t remember that happening. He wished it did but he isn’t going to make things up

I read the transcripts of two of their debates and that isn’t in there anywhere.

It's funny to watch people cling to this as true, rather than simply admit that it never happened.

When the rumor was originally circulated back in November 2008, the claim was that it had taken place during a regular debate, and that video existed of it. Just a few months back, in his informercial, Gary Kreep claimed that there was tape of this.

Of course, eventually people watched the footage and read the transcripts, and saw that it wasn't there. Keyes' own people said it didn't happen. So did the rumor die for lack of evidence?

No, the rumor just changed. Instead of taking place during the debate and being broadcast, some people started claiming that it was edited out of the broadcast. (Considering that political debates are often live, and never edited for content, that's odd.)

But of course, that created problems too. Because the transcript shouldn't be edited, and it's not in any transcript. So then some people started claiming that it didn't happen during the debate at all, but offstage sometime after the debate. Which, of course, runs directly counter to the folks who insist they saw it on TV.

So now you have some people claiming they saw it broadcasted, some people claiming it was edited, and some people claiming it happened out of sight. And the only evidence any of them have is their own memories; and given that people also claim to have witnessed Obama say he wanted to change the National Anthem to a Coke jingle (which originated in a satire column), that's some awfully weak evidence.

But they refuse to simply concede that it never took place. So Kreep says it on TV, and Pidgeon puts it in his press release, and they both look like fools.

134 posted on 01/06/2010 8:50:03 AM PST by LorenC
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To: wintertime

I’m not sure why they aren’t pushing this issue. One possible explanation is that Obama has threatened to shut them down, or to shut down the companies that broadcast them, so Fox and Rush’s operator (is it still ClearChannel?) have warned them against it.

Rush did joke about it for a while—What do God and Obama have in common? No birth certificates.

Rush sometimes has held back because he doesn’t want to undermine the Republicans. He tries to persuade them to make sense, but he avoids pushing them too hard. Possibly the Republican leadership has put out a mandate not to discuss this. Why? I don’t know. But they are the stupid party. And maybe Obama has warned them—instead of less pork, they will get NO pork unless they avoid this issue.

In any case, I think the thing is to persuade Beck and Rush that their listeners really want them to raise this issue. But this should be done in a way that doesn’t threaten to wreck their shows. Organized phone calls are anathema to talk show hosts, because they depend on having the sort of calls they want for a particular show get through.

Some people argue that there are other issues that should be concentrated on first, such as healthcare. I think that’s a false idea. The only way to beat healthcare is to tank Obama’s numbers so far that his supporters give up on it. And they are willing to take a big loss on it to get it through, so we need to ensure an even bigger loss. Two of the ways to weaken are Obama are to make fun of him and his arrogant habits and to caste doubt on his legitimacy. Do people really want a Kenyan Muslim Communist running our country? Romantic background, yes, they like that, but not some kind of corrupt illegal alien who lies about his background.


135 posted on 01/06/2010 9:00:51 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: LorenC
It's funny to watch people cling to this as true, rather than simply admit that it never happened.

Are you referring to this admission on his website that he was born a citizen of Kenya:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children. Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982.”

[www.barackobama.com/fightthesmears/articles/5/birthcertificate]

136 posted on 01/06/2010 9:11:13 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Are you referring to this admission on his website that he was born a citizen of Kenya:

No, I'm referring to the apocryphal accounts of what was supposedly said during a Keyes/Obama debate in 2004. That's what roving's post (which I quoted and was responding to) was about.

137 posted on 01/06/2010 9:19:31 AM PST by LorenC
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To: LorenC
No, I'm referring to the apocryphal accounts of what was supposedly said during a Keyes/Obama debate in 2004. That's what roving's post (which I quoted and was responding to) was about.

Oh, sorry, I thought you were referring to the below actual account of what was definitely written by Obama's own website admitting the same thing -- that he was born a Kenyan national:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children. Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982.”

[www.barackobama.com/fightthesmears/articles/5/birthcertificate]

138 posted on 01/06/2010 9:41:43 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: stockpirate
LOL! I said new material, and you repeat the same ole same ole. Reading comprehension wants to be your friend. Thanks for adding a giggle to my morning. Enjoy your day.
139 posted on 01/06/2010 9:42:28 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: LucyT
Excellent!!

Thank you for the ping LucyT

140 posted on 01/06/2010 10:03:52 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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