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To: JustPiper; MestaMachine
The numbers themselves don't really lie... I have only recently delved into the projects that Dr. O’Hanlon has overseen for several years.

The trends in Iraq are clear, and might even be something of an ultimate vindication of the Bush policy when all is said and done. It is fragile for sure, but recent months have seen steep declines in violence as a whole. November was by some counts the lowest civilian casualty month since the war began. December went back up but much of it is due to Ashura which has historically been violent. The big attacks and seeming resurgence of at least some AQI is troubling, and perhaps a future lean toward an Iranian-like state... but, the Iraqis do seem to enjoy democracy so there is reason to think it could turn out OK after some rocky periods.

The increased troops in Afghanistan have helped stabilize the areas that have seen the increase. The additional troops should continue that trend. If we can really push the Taliban and AQ into the country and kill the worst and demoralize the 'best' then it's a good thing. Afghanistan is a big place, I'm not sure the U.S. or allies could really up the numbers to match it's size. Getting out does not make much sense given the fact that many high profile attacks and attempts have come from the region.

There are lots of questions with Pakistan, as the attack yesterday reminds. It does seem they are trying to work to defeat the Taliban and associated elements, but I am not sure they understand counterinsurgency as well as the U.S. and the allies. The drone attacks are taking out top leadership left and right but also annoy large parts of the population. It is obviously heavily tied to Afghanistan and the point about attacks being plotted and then activated from the region.

The Yemen thing is a bit scary just because it seems AQ or similar groups could just keep popping up in weak or failed states. I don't know all that much about the situation there, but it seems like it could boil over in some fashion.

375 posted on 01/02/2010 10:05:33 PM PST by nwctwx
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To: nwctwx

Just went over the numbers you posted. They seem to me to be way off. Where do you get these numbers?
One in particular that is skewed badly, is the poppy harvest. In reality, it has never been higher and has increased dramatically every year since the start of the Afghan War.
Also not taken into account is how many taliban insurgents/sympathizers actually make up the numbers for the Afghan Security Forces.
All indications from Iraq are that the Sunni-Shia split is re-emerging and the trend AGAINST the Kurds is strengthening as government corruption increases.
I am just questioning where this information actually came from.
The US Commanders on the ground in Iraq are increasingly unhappy at how They are being shut down and dissed by this admin AND the Iraqi Government.


378 posted on 01/02/2010 10:20:42 PM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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To: nwctwx
>>>> "The Yemen thing is a bit scary just because it seems AQ or similar groups could just keep popping up in weak or failed states. I don't know all that much about the situation there, but it seems like it could boil over in some fashion." <<<<

I agree, I find the situation in Yemen to be frightening and frankly have for many years.

The other night I heard several talking heads on BBC radio saying that the area in question in HUGE, and has NO infrastructure, none. They didn't mean it had poor infrastructure or little infrastructure -- they repetitively said there was NO infrastructure whatsoever, not even a road.

I mean... I'm sure that the al Quaedans must have cell phones and perhaps there are satellite dishes for some online broadband --- but essentially this huge area is stark wild --- thus the inhabitants live in very primative, very old fashioned conditions.

Have you ever seen pictures of the capitol, Saana?

The Smithsonian did a spread sometime last decade -- it is really gorgeous, the traditional building style is beautiful.

412 posted on 01/03/2010 8:22:52 AM PST by hennie pennie
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