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Official: Explosive PETN Used in Attack (Carried in Condom by Suspect?)
CBS News/AP ^ | Saturday, December 26, 2009

Posted on 12/26/2009 10:20:58 AM PST by kristinn

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To: Bigg Red

Who is this “Marshall Law” you keep going on about, and what does he have to do with imposing military restrictions on the populace?

Or did you mean MARTIAL law, with mandatory curfews and soldiers in the streets?


141 posted on 12/26/2009 6:00:19 PM PST by Don W (I keep some people's numbers in my phone so I know not to answer when they call)
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To: DoorGunner

If that is indeed the case, the hypo would have HAD to have been made of glass. Maybe the glass syringe busted in his pocket and he got burned by the acid.


142 posted on 12/26/2009 6:26:21 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

>>”...he’s risking more than just thermal burns...”

We keep thinking about how a rational person would do it. How to keep it controllable. We need to remember that, if he had been “successful” he (and everybody else on the plane) would be dead.

With that in mind, whoever designed this concoction probably gave no consideration to safety or stability, and thus didn’t consider that it might go thermal, and in that way, FAIL.

DG


143 posted on 12/26/2009 6:27:46 PM PST by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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To: Dog

holy shite


144 posted on 12/26/2009 6:30:31 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (I will not be silenced.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
This guy lived in a 4 million dollar house in London.

I don't think he is going to care for his new accommodations.

145 posted on 12/26/2009 6:33:42 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: kristinn

If the explosive used it PETN, the amount needed to fill a condom is enough to literally blow a heavy wooden front door found in houses off its hinges. Good thing the the explosive device didn’t go off fully, or the explosion—especially in a pressurized fuselage—would have literally blown a fairly big hole from the window seat where the “perp” was sitting.


146 posted on 12/26/2009 6:47:28 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Darteaus94025
Yeah, then we’ll get Bill Maher commenting on how they’re not cowards, but our AF pilots are.

As soon as Maher's on he'll be trashing Americans...

147 posted on 12/26/2009 7:07:50 PM PST by GOPJ (Journalists as BaghdadBobLite - Global Warming Scientists as ElmerGantry - what's happening?)
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To: driftdiver

I saw an account where the guy spent 20 minutes in the bathroom.When he came out he asked for a blanket which he used to hide his attempt to activate his device. It probably was in his rectum,condoms are commonly used by smugglers.


148 posted on 12/26/2009 7:31:54 PM PST by staten island ny
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To: GeronL; TigersEye

Thanks for the ping! Good video!


149 posted on 12/26/2009 8:04:57 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: kristinn

The last time I flew out of Den (2 yrs. ago) all passengers had to step into a booth. Air was blown over you, obviously ‘sniffing’ for explosives. After about 15 sec. it gave the ok.

I’ll bet that booth would have caught him.


150 posted on 12/26/2009 8:18:48 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: DoorGunner

Your speculation sounds like what was up on that plane fer’ sure.

A nitrates sniff, dog or machine, should still detect the powder, no?

-RT


151 posted on 12/26/2009 8:46:10 PM PST by TheRobThomas
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To: DoorGunner
whoever designed this concoction

We don't know if the designer is the same person who selected this would be bomber, or a different Predator target. But the selector apparently did give some consideration to competence in picking a trained mechanical engineer. Unless his degree was completely bought off by Daddy Warbucks, in which case thank heavens for nepotism, you'd expect someone who made it through his schooling be able to pull this off. As for the bomber I agree he wouldn't care about the possibility of thermal burns, but I thought some Freepers might enjoy an extra dose of Schadenfreude! And the last think the bomber would have expected is to get this far and live. That should be a big shock to his system and a great opportunity for our guys to break him down and roll up his connections. D*mn, what a difference a year makes.

I wonder if its possible to waterboard someone in an airplane rest room or galley? Cut the feed to black boxes, take it around a couple times. If Obama lets PC screw up this case, and the next case succeeds, the case after that just might present him with a fait accompli. Or at least an interesting direct to video movie (the only way it would ever get made.)

152 posted on 12/26/2009 9:01:59 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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To: TheRobThomas

>>”A nitrates sniff, dog or machine, should still detect the powder, no?”

It looks like the precursor: Pentaerythritol (C5H12O4) has no nitrates until treated with Nitric acid (and maybe sulfuric acid).


153 posted on 12/26/2009 9:09:30 PM PST by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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To: staten island ny
The rectum storage angle is not far fetched at all. Coincides with the ghoul that blew himself up recently, attempting to kill Saudi royalty. Internal bodily storage of explosives, escapes any pat downs, and may prevent detectors from sniffing out prohibited compounds/vapors. In that case, some of the more tried and true HE products could be smuggled in one’s rectal cavity, expelled later for assembly and ignition. That's unless the detectors have the ability to detect substances smuggled/carried internally. Anyone know the capabilities of the detection devices?
154 posted on 12/26/2009 9:15:51 PM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: driftdiver
He was in his fricken seat!!! Bureaucrats are useless!

I heard that he spent several minutes, maybe 20, in the head/latrine/can just before returning to his seat, covering himself with a blanket, and then trying to set off his "device".

Hope he blew off most of his taliwacker, and then burned the rest.

155 posted on 12/26/2009 9:43:53 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

So the next one modifies their plan slightly. The solution isn’t keeping people in their seats for the last hour in involuntary confinement. The bozo shouldn’t have been on the plane to begin with. They had all the information they needed to know that.

They are more focused on those evil right wing conservatives.


156 posted on 12/27/2009 4:19:52 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Gritty; kristinn

Other reports have stated he spent several minutes in the bathroom right before setting off the device.


157 posted on 12/27/2009 8:52:03 AM PST by 1066AD
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To: Don W

OMW! I did mean martial law. I feel so stupid.


158 posted on 12/27/2009 6:26:49 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: paristwelve
You gotta hand it to the dad for alerting U.S. authorities, trying to save American lives and, of course, the life of his son.

I don't mind that the father seems to have gotten his wish and his son lived despite the warnings being ignored ... nor do I mind that the son may have qualified himself for a Darwin Award. I assume that once the family jewels have been properly roasted, they are no longer functional for reproduction.

159 posted on 12/31/2009 11:39:33 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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