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History of climate gets 'erased' online
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | December 21, 2009 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 12/21/2009 7:22:06 PM PST by Man50D

A new report reveals a British scientist and Wikipedia administrator rewrote climate history, editing more than 5,000 unique articles in the online encyclopedia to cover traces of a medieval warming period – something Climategate scientists saw as a major roadblock in the effort to spread the global warming message.

Recently hacked e-mails from the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit expose a plot to eliminate the Medieval Warm Period, a 400-year era that began around A.D. 1000, the Financial Post's Lawrence Solomon reports.

The warming period is said to have improved agriculture and increased life spans, but scientists at the center of the Climategate e-mail scandal believed the era undermined their goal of spreading concern about global warming as it pertains to today's climate.

Solomon noted the warming period presented a dilemma long before the Climategate e-mail scandal.

A 1995 e-mail predating the recent Climate Research Unit scandal was sent to geophysicist David Deming. A major climate-change researcher told Deming, "We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period."

Some scientists later expressed concern about erasing the period.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1000; 1984; climatechange; fraud; mwp
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1 posted on 12/21/2009 7:22:06 PM PST by Man50D
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To: Man50D

Heck anyone can go on Wikipedia and check out all the changes, when they were made, who made them, what exactly was added, what exactly was removed — it’s all there and recorded.

If anyone thinks that something was removed that should be added back in — you can do it. You just have to provide the reference and then you write it back in, giving the reference. It’s not that hard to do.

So... go to it, if you want to... :-)


2 posted on 12/21/2009 7:24:35 PM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: Man50D

and now...time to get rid of the present warm period.

SWOOSH!

that’s the sound of me flushing climatologists down the shitter!


3 posted on 12/21/2009 7:25:06 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Star Traveler

I already did that once on israel...by mistake. I thought I was submitting a suggestion. I didnt’ realize everything I typed would instantly appear on the official wiki entry for israel for all to see.


4 posted on 12/21/2009 7:27:08 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Man50D
Is Winston Smith going to be in charge of destroying these records

"Remember Winston, East Asia has always been at war with Oceania."

5 posted on 12/21/2009 7:27:58 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Star Traveler

And I see the owner is begging for bucks to keep Wikipedia alive … just let this abomination die.


6 posted on 12/21/2009 7:29:13 PM PST by doc1019 (Merry Christmas everyone!!!)
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To: Star Traveler
"If anyone thinks that something was removed that should be added back in — you can do it. You just have to provide the reference and then you write it back in, giving the reference. It’s not that hard to do."

Hmmm if I were you I would do some research before making such pronouncements expecially when talking about Wikipedia and Climate change.

See link: Lawrence Solomon: Wikipedia’s climate doctor-Wikipedia’s green doctor rewrote 5,428 climate articles

7 posted on 12/21/2009 7:32:27 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: Star Traveler

21:42, 15 November 2004 William M. Connolley (talk | contribs) (Remove rubbish. Look at Temperature record of the past 1000 years where this has been addressed for some time now.)
17:47, 5 February 2005 William M. Connolley (talk | contribs) (Rm unnecessary “cooling” bit; rm gratuitous questioning of IPCC; restore qualifier of Dalys stuff)
10:09, 16 November 2004 William M. Connolley (talk | contribs) (Move unseemly fighting over IPCC history to own page so it doesn’t deface the MWP page.)
# 23:01, 15 November 2004 William M. Connolley (talk | contribs) (Rewrite, using t-rec-1000-y textt, since Ed refuses to read it otherwise. And its probably useful to have it here too.)
# (cur) (prev) 22:05, 15 November 2004 Ed Poor (talk | contribs) (The United Nations climate panel initially accepted the existence of the Medieval Warm Period (see Temperature record of the past 1000 years) - NPOV requires mentioning dissenteng views, doc.)

and so on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Medieval_Warm_Period&dir=prev&action=history


8 posted on 12/21/2009 7:34:18 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Star Traveler; Man50D
"Through his role as a Wikipedia administrator, Connolley is said to have created or rewritten 5,428 unique Wikipedia entries. "When Connolley didn't like the subject of a certain article, he removed it – more than 500 articles of various descriptions disappeared at his hand," Solomon wrote. "When he disapproved of the arguments that others were making, he often had them barred – over 2,000 Wikipedia contributors who ran afoul of him found themselves blocked from making further contributions."

Perhaps you missed this part?

9 posted on 12/21/2009 7:35:44 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Man50D

The hits and the fraud just keeps coming...


10 posted on 12/21/2009 7:39:48 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Man50D

Yeah - ‘Wikipedia’ is a good source of info...

Anyone can edit anything- and not political bias here... no sirreee


11 posted on 12/21/2009 7:49:26 PM PST by Mr. K (This administration is wearing out my capslock key..grrrrrr)
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To: Star Traveler

You dude that did the editing had Wiki admin rights. Banning up to 2000 other contributors along the way.


12 posted on 12/21/2009 7:55:51 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Star Traveler
If anyone thinks that something was removed that should be added back in — you can do it.

Sure, and then it will get reverted. And then you will change it back. And then it will get reverted. And then you will go to an arbitration committee and the long-standing editor will get the votes of his fellow editors. Keep doing it after that and you will get blocked.
13 posted on 12/21/2009 8:03:25 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Man50D

The central problem in the GW crisis is the tree-ring data.

The scientists measure and the tree ring width, and then have tried to reason that the amount of growth is an indicator of the temperature.

This is a mistake. The growth is a combination of factors.

Not all trees respond the same to these factors, either.

Without using a large number of trees to get an average, and without comparative temperatures to show a history of correlation, they are worthless.

The tree-ring data is good , really , for one thing. It counts the numbers of years , plus or minus a few.

It is not an accurate recording of temperature. It might be a good indicator of C02, though.


14 posted on 12/21/2009 8:22:26 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (M)
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To: mamelukesabre
You were saying ...

I already did that once on israel...by mistake. I thought I was submitting a suggestion. I didnt’ realize everything I typed would instantly appear on the official wiki entry for israel for all to see.

LOL... yeah, I imagine it was... :-)

15 posted on 12/21/2009 8:23:41 PM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: doc1019
You were saying ...

And I see the owner is begging for bucks to keep Wikipedia alive … just let this abomination die.

It won't die, because it's a good information resource. All that is necessary is for conservatives to get just as involved as anyone else. Just like we work on elections, you can work on Wikipedia, too... :-)

16 posted on 12/21/2009 8:25:12 PM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: Mad Dawgg
You were saying ...

Hmmm if I were you I would do some research before making such pronouncements expecially when talking about Wikipedia and Climate change.

I saw and read that, but you realize that we're talking about now and it's a fine time to take care of all this stuff... so I say "get to it"... :-)

17 posted on 12/21/2009 8:26:24 PM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: PAR35

And now we’ve got material and resources to rebut it and get it back in again, so I say, “go to it” for anyone who has references and resources to use, plus time to do it and work at it.

This is the best time to do it, since this has come out in the news...


18 posted on 12/21/2009 8:27:49 PM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: Eagles6
You were saying ...

Perhaps you missed this part?

I didn't miss it. I'm saying that because you read it, and others read it -- this is the perfect time to correct it... :-)

19 posted on 12/21/2009 8:28:54 PM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
You were saying ...

You dude that did the editing had Wiki admin rights. Banning up to 2000 other contributors along the way.

I understand that, and this is what makes it a perfect time for conservatives to set things straight. You've got the information now to make things right.

20 posted on 12/21/2009 8:30:25 PM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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