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Senate HealthCare Debate-Live thread
C-Span2 ^ | 12-21-09

Posted on 12/20/2009 9:19:46 PM PST by icwhatudo

Did not see an official thread. If you are still awake-here it is.

Watch live here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathofanation; fascism; obama; obamacare; senate; socializedmedicine; teapartymeantnothing; vote
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To: nutmeg

I thought the Federal government was closed today?

Sorry, i’m grasping for straws.


361 posted on 12/20/2009 10:47:05 PM PST by AliVeritas (Is it nothing to you all ye who pass by? Our brothers blood screams from the ground.)
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To: malkee

Then try Coburn and DeMint. We only need one. It cannot be objected to and it will add a nice spur in the dem’s saddle. Additionally, Dan’s plan will give the Senate another couple bites on this thing.


362 posted on 12/20/2009 10:47:27 PM PST by PowerPro (2009 - Conservative Revolution Reborn (Go Palin!))
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To: AmericanInTokyo; PowerPro

Hear! Hear!

What AIT said, goes for me as well... I’m signing off for now though. Time to read, pray and rest - later today is another day (God willing), and I intend to make the most of it. Like I said in my post above this — we may have lost this battle, but the War is far from over... May God be with us.


363 posted on 12/20/2009 10:48:03 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: PowerPro; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; ...
FRiends... PowerPro has a plan on how to kill the bill posted in #305.

Excerpt:

The Plan: First, conservatives will object to the appointment of the conferees...

Read full details here: http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/12/20/the-extraordinary-measures-needed-to-kill-the-bill/

364 posted on 12/20/2009 10:48:49 PM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

AMEN! Thanks for posting that, I needed it!


365 posted on 12/20/2009 10:49:06 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

July and the tea parties marked the beginning of Obama’s decline. Health care was supposed to be over then, remember? Then immigration and cap and trade.

The tea party movement changed the direction of the massive lib win in 2008 and did it record time.

This is the reason congress is facing passing this abomination against the wishes of the majority of the American people.

It is foolish to give up now, and foolish to denigrate the great success of the tea party movement. Now is the time to rachet it up and build on its success.


366 posted on 12/20/2009 10:49:10 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: AliVeritas

Hey Ali, we had another live thread going on.

Haaaary and Chris Dodd can high five all they want now because they won’t be reelected, they were sunk even before this vote.


367 posted on 12/20/2009 10:50:07 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

They haven’t worked because the Dems simply do not care about the people and are willing to behave in the most immoral fashion to get their way.

But we can create problems for them. This is not smooth sailing for them by any measure. It has to get through the house and that could be a big problem for several reasons.

So don’t give up and don’t lay down and mourn for our country. Or if you do, do it like I did...yesterday when I first heard about Ben Nelson being bought off so obscenely. I ranted, raved, then got really sad in my anger. And after I was done, got back to work.

It’s tragic that we’re at this place but this fight is NOT over by any measure, regardless of how the left will try to pant an air of inevitability around it.


368 posted on 12/20/2009 10:50:38 PM PST by PowerPro (2009 - Conservative Revolution Reborn (Go Palin!))
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To: D-fendr

I was a defeatist early this year because it seemed we weren’t going to win anything. And by all rights we should not have.

But the truth is we’ve won quite a bit. Here we are in DECEMBER and Reid is having the vote in the dead of night with Senators he literally had to pay off to cobble together his “victory.”

They barely got to this point...and they have a super majority.

That tells me we are having an effect. But we do need to alter our strategy based on the changing circumstances.


369 posted on 12/20/2009 10:54:00 PM PST by PowerPro (2009 - Conservative Revolution Reborn (Go Palin!))
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To: holdonnow; malia; mware; Bahbah; rush; HonestConservative

Legal counsel ping

We also need to know the process re: states rights/exemptions?


370 posted on 12/20/2009 10:54:10 PM PST by AliVeritas (Is it nothing to you all ye who pass by? Our brothers blood screams from the ground.)
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To: PowerPro

Bttt


371 posted on 12/20/2009 10:54:35 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: AliVeritas

They could not pass it on Sunday. It is written.


372 posted on 12/20/2009 10:54:45 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: nutmeg

To clarify...this is not my plan. This is Dan Perrin’s plan over at Red State.

I saw it and was encouraged. Finally! Some action I can take rather than just sitting here fuming. :)


373 posted on 12/20/2009 10:55:04 PM PST by PowerPro (2009 - Conservative Revolution Reborn (Go Palin!))
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To: AliVeritas; LibertyRocks
With illegals getting a subsidy... hence still covered.

And what did Joe Wilson say about this?

374 posted on 12/20/2009 10:55:40 PM PST by thecodont
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To: D-fendr
Nobody is saying "give up". Some are saying, though, the same old tactics ain't cutting it.

Look, was the mission accomplished tonight? Did we achieve our deliverables? Did we reach one of our milestones?

If not, there needs to be some serious thinking about opening up new, different, create fronts of (political) assault on this immovable beast known as the Congress and the Presidency.

375 posted on 12/20/2009 10:56:49 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (And so, our 2009 tactics to-date require a complete and full analysis and reconsideration.,)
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Ariel Glucklkch is an idiot to


376 posted on 12/20/2009 10:57:07 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: AliVeritas

Ooops! I guess you mean the weather. sorry


377 posted on 12/20/2009 10:57:19 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: AliVeritas
I guess they couldn't pass it on a Sunday? Well, they sure fixed that, didn't they?

I am still incredulous that they are going to vote for final passage of this evil thing on CHRISTMAS EVE. Unconscionable on so many levels...

378 posted on 12/20/2009 10:57:52 PM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Your sarcasm.....is well deserved. It stings, and it should. We pray for direction and we will get it. Be awake, be aware, be ready to react!
379 posted on 12/20/2009 10:58:35 PM PST by goodtomato (I'm blessed! I support Marco Rubio 2010)
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To: combat_boots

Reid declaring “we are about to make history” reminded me of Gordon Currie in the Left behind movie as Nicolae Carpathia aka the antichrist, when he takes over the Un and says “we’re about to make history”—the same vibe.


380 posted on 12/20/2009 10:59:46 PM PST by mrsmel
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