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To: DoughtyOne

“My opinion cannot be truth?”

It is possible for opinion to be truth. But opinion is opinion it is not fact or truth. The person stated that your “entire post was gospel truth”. So, no that is not truth it is opinion...you said numerous things, most of which are up for debate.

“And since when is it savvy to back a person with McCain’s record? This 100% statement reveals the exact opposite of Sarah being politically savvy.”

Again, your opinion which I believe to be incorrect.
It’s not rocket science. McCain gave Palin national recognition. That is a political debt that you don’t forget.
It is entirely politically gullible to think otherwise.

“If I come to the forum and stated, “ I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection.”, what would you say to me? Then why can’t you say the same thing to Sarah?”

Because you and I are conservatives. Plain is a potential Presidential nominee. I think Palin proved she will support conservatives in primaries up in NY23 and in some other races. However, there will be GOP incumbents she may support that may not pass our litmus test for consrvatism. That is the way you build a national organization.

McCain is a totally unique circumstance as I stated above. you don’t kick people to the ground that gave you national prominence. Az. could be the difference in winning and losing to Obama. McCain enjoys busting balz of conservatives, he cut put Obama in office in retribution for Palin backstabbing him politically.

That is political suicide. Palin was intelligent enough and polically savvy enough not to play that game.


570 posted on 12/18/2009 12:34:44 PM PST by rbmillerjr (It's us against them...the Establishment RINOs vs rank and file...Sarah Palin or bust)
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To: rbmillerjr; DoughtyOne
McCain gave Palin national recognition. That is a political debt that you don’t forget.

And without Palin, McCain would have gone down in flames...for the sixth time.

I'd say that he owes her a political debt for giving him more than a 0.5 percent chance of maintaining the slightest shred of "relevancy."

I'd say those two debts cancel each other out.

Because you and I are conservatives. Plain is a potential Presidential nominee. I think Palin proved she will support conservatives in primaries up in NY23 and in some other races. However, there will be GOP incumbents she may support that may not pass our litmus test for consrvatism. That is the way you build a national organization.

Either support libertarian conservatives, or get lost.

you don’t kick people to the ground that gave you national prominence.

You also don't sell your soul to political devils.

McCain enjoys busting balz of conservatives, he cut put Obama in office in retribution for Palin backstabbing him politically.

He already did.

"I have to tell you, [Obama] is a decent person, a person that you
do not have to be scared [of] as president of the United States."

U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 10 OCT. 2008

"I think the Democratic Party is a fine party, and I have
no problems with it, in their views and their philosophy."

U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 02 APR. 2004

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent
and will do everything I can to support his reelection."

FMR. GOV. SARAH PALIN, 16 DEC. 2009


579 posted on 12/18/2009 1:02:19 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rbmillerjr
It's really comical to watch folks when confronted with truth.


If an opinion once expressed relects truth, then it can be recognized as such.  But enough of juvenile avoidences.

Yes, these things are up for debate.  That doesn't mean that a poster who agrees with me cannot voice the opinion that I spoke the truth.  IMO, I spoke the truth.  In his opinion I spoke the truth.  And in the opinions of other people, I spoke the truth.  I'm still not going to sit here and watch you bend yourself in knots, to dismiss my comments being true.

It's my opinion that John McCain was the Republican nominee in 2008.  My opinion, is my voiced perception of reality.  So is this a falsehood or not?  No.

It's not politically gullible to think that Palin should avoid endorsing McCain 100%.  That's utter nonsense.
Good heavens.  You build a national following by explaining what Conservatism is, incorporating it into your platform, incorporating that platform into the actions you take, and addressing issues and people from the vantage point of being a true Conservative, that supports Conservative ideals and the people who share that vision.

Honest to God the contortions folks go to, to get around the elephant in the middle of the road.  Hey, there's an elephant in the middle of the road.  Don't try to make the case that since the road is curved, the elephant isn't precisely in the middle of the line a crow would fly.  It's just pointless.

Sarah wants our votes. She's not going to get it making statements like the one she made here.  So you can flap you gums as much as you like, it was a bonehead move.  To quote someone on this forum, "That is policitcal suicide."  You may not agree, but then you don't have to agree for it to be true.  If she continues down this road, she will become unelectable.

Palin showed herself not to be savvy, or intelligent either one by this statement.  And I woudln't have to be pointing that out, if folks would simply quite trying to defend the indefensible.

580 posted on 12/18/2009 1:02:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obamanism, Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Socialism, Capitalism, Americanism w/founding principles)
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