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I wouldn't but Obama does...

LOL! Perfect!

What I reject is the idea of outlawing abortion by something like an executive order.

Why?

Please point out the part of the Constitution which indicates that the Supreme Court has the authority to declare something unconstitutional, but that the President or Congress does not.

Amen!

Alas, the stated wellspring of this power--Marbury v. Madison--is not actually part of the Constitution.

Thank you.

...there is also evidence of dinosaurs existing even until much more recent history...

What’s reprehensible is your attempts to induce quarrels

How could that be? NL constantly says posters are 'baiting' him whether they are on the thread or not. One only needs to read NL's posts to prove your are right and others have no need to because they already know the tactics of NL!

Your don’t criticize video has been pulled.

Many Theologists have serious doubts about the gospel of Fred.

I’m just sayin....

What a toxic thread.

I wish you wouldn't insist on arguing about this.

The old also speaks of the new - it works both ways. Jesus came to fulfill the law and He did just that. We are no longer under the 'law' but under grace. The new testament clearly shows that.

The "new testament" is what chr*stians believe. It is not "obviously" or "self-evidently" true.

If one choses to live under the law, they will be judged by the law. No one can honestly say they can live by the law. Remember what happened to the man when he picked up sticks on the Sabbath?

Jews are under the Torah. Non-Jews are under the Seven Commandments of the Sons of Noach. No choice about it. It is simply G-d's decree. If you don't like it, take it up with Him.

The law was imposed to show man what God's righteousness was. The religious were going around claiming to be righteous and He instituted the law to show what righteousness was and to reign in on all the lawlessness - and we ALL fall short and could never attain righteousness because of our sin nature. We needed a Savior.

This is the chr*stian, and specifically Evangelical Protestant, worldview. It is not the worldview of the Torah, though chr*stians insist on retrojecting it into it.

The purpose of the Torah is not to pay Adam's sin debt or enable one to "go to Heaven." It is an end in and of itself. The only reason this world was created was so Israel could keep the Torah.

Jesus, the spotless Lamb, came to fulfill the law for us.

The claim of chr*stianity. Not self-evidently true.

He covered the sins of all but many don't accept it; instead, think their good works or reading the bible or attending a service will get them to heaven. NOT SO! Unless one accepts Jesus as their Savior, who believe in what He did at The Cross, is covered. Even though he shed His blood for ALL. We must accept it by faith - not understand it - but by faith only. We receive salvation by His Grace through our faith in what He did for us. Jesus did His part - grace, we must do our part - faith. It's no wonder God's Word stresses obedience to His Word - whether we under stand it or not - obey first (faith) and understanding follows. Come to me as a child.

I know all about the Evangelical Protestant antinomian loophole "vicarious damnation of a Divine scapegoat in our place" religion. In fact, I grew up in it. It is an innovation of men that is foreign to the Torah.

Why anyone thumbs their nose at a priceless paid in full gift is beyond me.

And if I believed as you do, so would I.

Is it pride or a lack of knowledge - who knows. Jesus did his part but it's our decision in this lifetime where we want to spend eternity - according to HIS rules, not ours. It's not in God's hands, He already did everything so we can be with Him for eternity and that's what He wants and why Jesus came. That's why The Bible is called the Good News.

I don't know why others reject this. Actually, until Martin Luther and John Calvin came along even chr*stianity didn't see things this way (Eastern Orthodoxy rejects the idea of the "blood atonement," and it is a very ancient version of chr*stianity--certainly more authentic than Evangelical Protestantism). But I know why I reject it. It is forbidden by G-d to add or create new religions after the Ultimate Revelation at Sinai.

Here is a vanity thread myself attempting to explain Evangelical Protestantism to Orthodox Jews. While I do not agree with the Evangelicals I was actually defending them against ignorant charges of "hatred." Unfortunately, a few Evangelicals chose to ignore this and use the thread to argue against the Torah. Oh well.

BTW, no offense taken or given.

That is good to know!

All in good fun, I’m sure.

What a toxic thread.

I agree. But not because of my post. :)

Do you really think that the framers of the Constitution would endorse the idea of the President overturning the laws of the states simply by issuing a statement that he considered them invalid?

I have no more desire to live according to the whims of a conservative autocrat than a liberal one.

And if you're going to bring up the Fourteenth Amendment, that's one I'd repeal in a shot if I could.

You might just know “Fred.” :)

Quit your preaching at and lecturing everyone, fer cryin’ out loud.

MORMON

ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY

  1. I’m Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you don’t!
  2. I’m Superior; I have God’s true priesthood power -- you don’t!
  3. I’m Superior; I can go in God’s secret Temple -- you can’t!
  4. I’m Superior; I’ve been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- you’re just normal!
  5. I’m Superior; I’ll have my family with me in heaven -- you’ll be with strangers!
  6. I’m Superior; I’m becoming a God -- you aren’t!
  7. I’m Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours don’t.
  8. I’m Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
  9. I’m Superior; I don’t HAVE a creed - I’ve got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. I’m Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. —                           -- You can’t.
12. I’m Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics --                            -- You’re a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. I’m Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. I’m Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you don’t.
18. I’m Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you don’t ;so you can’t.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. I’m Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably                              -- You’re on your own; when you get to wherever you’re going!
21. I’m Superior; I’m going to hie to Kolob -- you’re going to who knows where.
22. I’m Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you don’t.
23. I’m Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple

-- all you have is a stupid cross.
24. I’m Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)

Revision 46.1

Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.

All rights liable to be abused.

Why can't the RESTORED gospel be found in the Book of MORMON; like Salt Lake City SAYS that it can?

Tell me about it. lol. Must have hit a nerve.

Not when people get banned...

oh goodness no!!

I’ve seen plenty from you that could be accused of being hateful, like telling people they are demon possessed.

Now, now Metmom: she's a MORMON now.

Don't you KNOW what some of her SCRIPTURES say?

No WONDER she calls non-MORMONs POSESSED!!

THE FIRST BOOK OF NEPHI
HIS REIGN AND MINISTRY

CHAPTER 14

An angel tells Nephi of the blessings and cursings to fall upon the Gentiles—There are only two churches: the Church of the Lamb of God and the church of the devil—The saints of God in all nations are persecuted by the great and abominable church—The apostle John shall write concerning the end of the world. Between 600 and 592 B.C.

1 And it shall come to pass, that if the Gentiles shall hearken unto the Lamb of God in that day that he shall manifest himself unto them in word, and also in power, in very deed, unto the taking away of their stumbling blocks—
2 And harden not their hearts against the Lamb of God, they shall be numbered among the seed of thy father; yea, they shall be numbered among the house of Israel; and they shall be a blessed people upon the promised land forever; they shall be no more brought down into captivity; and the house of Israel shall no more be confounded.
3 And that great pit, which hath been digged for them by that great and abominable church, which was founded by the devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to hell—yea, that great pit which hath been digged for the destruction of men shall be filled by those who digged it, unto their utter destruction, saith the Lamb of God; not the destruction of the soul, save it be the casting of it into that hell which hath no end.
4 For behold, this is according to the captivity of the devil, and also according to the justice of God, upon all those who will work wickedness and abomination before him.
5 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, Nephi, saying: Thou hast beheld that if the Gentiles repent it shall be well with them; and thou also knowest concerning the covenants of the Lord unto the house of Israel; and thou also hast heard that whoso repented not must perish.
6 Therefore, woe be unto the Gentiles if it so be that they harden their hearts against the Lamb of God.
7 For the time cometh, saith the Lamb of God, that I will work a great and a marvelous work among the children of men; a work which shall be everlasting, either on the one hand or on the other—either to the convincing of them unto peace and life eternal, or unto the deliverance of them to the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of their minds unto their being brought down into captivity, and also into destruction, both temporally and spiritually, according to the captivity of the devil, of which I have spoken.
8 And it came to pass that when the angel had spoken these words, he said unto me: Rememberest thou the covenants of the Father unto the house of Israel? I said unto him, Yea.
9 And it came to pass that he said unto me: Look, and behold that great and abominable church, which is the mother of abominations, whose founder is the devil.
10 And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth.
11 And it came to pass that I looked and beheld the whore of all the earth, and she sat upon many waters; and she had dominion over ball the earth, among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people.
12 And it came to pass that I beheld the church of the Lamb of God, and its numbers were few, because of the wickedness and abominations of the whore who sat upon many waters; nevertheless, I beheld that the church of the Lamb, who were the saints of God, were also upon ball the face of the earth; and their dominions upon the face of the earth were small, because of the wickedness of the great whore whom I saw.
13 And it came to pass that I beheld that the great mother of abominations did gather together multitudes upon the face of all the earth, among all the nations of the Gentiles, to fight against the Lamb of God.
14 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the power of the Lamb of God, that it descended upon the saints of the church of the Lamb, and upon the covenant people of the Lord, who were scattered upon all the face of the earth; and they were armed with righteousness and with the power of God in great glory.
15 And it came to pass that I beheld that the wrath of God was poured out upon that great and abominable church, insomuch that there were wars and rumors of wars among all the nations and kindreds of the earth.
16 And as there began to be wars and rumors of wars among all the nations which belonged to the mother of abominations, the angel spake unto me, saying: Behold, the wrath of God is upon the mother of harlots; and behold, thou seest all these things—
17 And when the day cometh that the wrath of God is poured out upon the mother of harlots, which is the great and abominable church of all the earth, whose founder is the devil, then, at that day, the work of the Father shall commence, in preparing the way for the fulfilling of his covenants, which he hath made to his people who are of the house of Israel.
18 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, saying: Look!
19 And I looked and beheld a man, and he was dressed in a white robe.
20 And the angel said unto me: Behold one of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
21 Behold, he shall see and write the remainder of these things; yea, and also many things which have been.
22 And he shall also write concerning the end of the world.
23 Wherefore, the things which he shall write are just and true; and behold they are written in the book which thou beheld proceeding out of the mouth of the Jew; and at the time they proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, or, at the time the book proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, the things which were written were plain and pure, and most precious and easy to the understanding of all men.
24 And behold, the things which this apostle of the Lamb shall write are many things which thou hast seen; and behold, the remainder shalt thou see.
25 But the things which thou shalt see hereafter thou shalt not write; for the Lord God hath ordained the apostle of the Lamb of God that he should write them.
26 And also others who have been, to them hath he shown all things, and they have written them; and they are sealed up to come forth in their purity, according to the truth which is in the Lamb, in the own due time of the Lord, unto the house of Israel.
27 And I, Nephi, heard and bear record, that the name of the apostle of the Lamb was john, according to the word of the angel.
28 And behold, I, Nephi, am forbidden that I should write the remainder of the things which I saw and heard; wherefore the things which I have written sufficeth me; and I have written but a small part of the things which I saw.
29 And I bear record that I saw the things which my father saw, and the angel of the Lord did make them known unto me.
30 And now I make an end of speaking concerning the things which I saw while I was carried away in the spirit; and if all the things which I saw are not written, the things which I have written are true. And thus it is. Amen.