Posted on 12/09/2009 10:33:51 AM PST by george76
Millions of undocumented people in the U.S. should be given a path to legal status after the country finds a way to stop illegal immigration, business and government leaders said in a report Wednesday.
The University of Denver report argues that legalizing as many of the estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants as possible could strengthen the economy and national security. But it should come with conditions, such as requiring new immigrants to learn English, pass criminal and medical background checks, and pay any taxes that they owe, the document states.
The report is the product of a year of discussions by a 20-member nonpartisan panel and presentations from Gov. Bill Ritter, Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper, former Gov. Bill Owens and other political leaders. Its policy recommendations are being sent to the Legislature and members of Congress.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbs4denver.com ...
So, how is having 13-30 Millin low income earners added to our welfare load, people who DO NOT pay taxes now, and will likely NOT PAY TAXES in the future - how does this help us?
This is a culture where education is not considered important, where hard work is prized, but they are entitled to schools, welfare assistance, medical care, child care, and every other social program - yet historically neither they, nor their children will ever earn enough to actually pay the taxes to compensate for the resources they consume.
This is where the article should have ended.
Get back to me "after the country finds a way to stop illegal immigration."
Hey AP, if it's all so "nonpartisan" why did your article only list Democrats?
Thanks for the link.
The only thing the article did not address is that not all illegals compete at the lower economic end of the hob market. It is disgusting easy for a visa overstay (guest worker, student, or just visitor) to morph into an illegal alien worker competing with and suppressing the wages of American professionals. There also never has been a worker shortage on the higher end of the market either.
RE :”The University of Denver report argues that legalizing as many of the estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants as possible could strengthen the economy and national security. But it should come with conditions, such as requiring new immigrants to learn English, pass criminal and medical background checks, and pay any taxes that they owe, the document states. “
strengthen the economy ?
Pay taxes?? They get a tax credit!
The unfortunate reality is that the real reason wages have crashed for the bottom wrung of American workers has less to do with illegal immigrants and more to do with software productivity. That’s not popular to admit, but it’s the truth.
Here’s what I mean:
If I were running my companies twenty years ago and, let’s say a customer placed an order, I’d have to have someone physically in a storefront, take payment, check inventory, ring up the sale, reorder the product, and then enter all of the records into the accounting system. There is a lot of time, process, and payroll that I’d have to cover.
Today, the customer shops from home. Their order is sent directly to the database, which adjusts the inventory figures, calculates the profit, charges the credit card, moves the money to the bank account, places the drop-ship order with the vendor, and then puts the completed record into the accounting system with no employee help along the way.
That means lower prices for the consumers, and higher profits in the company’s pockets. The savings come from jobs that are no longer necessary.
Peter Drucker warned us decades ago that the world was going to split into knowledge workers and the destitute, blue-collar workers that wouldn’t be able to support themselves as their role became increasingly obsolete. This is being driven by improvements in technology.
No one is talking about this, though. Probably because there aren’t a lot of solutions.
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A recent Michigan State University study suggested bringing in more immigrants with the stipulation that their home countries send investors and businesses to hire them.
Jobs Americans aren’t allowed to do.
You may find this interesting.
A new study from the Center for Immigration studies about unemployment.
http://cis.org/UnemploymentAmongNativeWorkers
Unemployed Natives Available for Work
Report Finds Huge Number of Less-Educated Americans Not Working
WASHINGTON (December 10, 2009) – The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) has released a new study detailing the U-6 unemployment rates among native born workers. U-6 is a broader measure of employment that includes the unemployed, people who would like to work but who have not looked for a job recently, and those involuntarily working part-time. A look at these numbers shows the situation is particularly bad for minorities, the young, and less-educated Americans. These are the workers who face the most competition from immigrants – legal and illegal.
The study, “A Huge Pool of Potential Workers: Unemployment, Underemployment, and Non-Work Among Native-Born Americans,” is authored by CIS Director of Research Steven A. Camarota and Demographer Karen Jensenius.
Among the findings:
* As of the third quarter of 2009, there are 12.5 million unemployed native-born Americans, but the broader U-6 measure shows 21 million natives unemployed or underemployed.
* There are 6.1 million natives with a high school education or less who are unemployed. Using the U-6 measure, it is 10.4 million.
* In addition to those less-educated natives covered by U-6, there are another 18.7 million natives with a high school education or less not in the labor force, which means they are not looking for work.
* The total number of less-educated (high school education or less) natives who are unemployed, underemployed, or not in the labor force is 29.1 million.
* To place these numbers in perspective, there are an estimated seven to eight million illegal immigrants holding jobs.
* As of the third quarter of 2009, the overall unemployment rate for native-born Americans is 9.5 percent; the U-6 measure shows it as 15.9 percent.
* Nationally, the unemployment rate for natives with a high school degree or less is 13.1 percent. Their U-6 measure is 21.9 percent.
* State with the highest U-6 rates for less-educated natives are Michigan, California, Arizona, Florida, Tennessee, South Carolina, North Carolina, Nevada, Illinois, and Georgia.
* The unemployment rate for natives nationally with less than a high school education is 20.5 percent. Their U-6 measure is 32.4 percent.
* Nationally, the unemployment rate for young native-born Americans (18-29) who have only a high school education is 19 percent. Their U-6 measure is 31.2 percent.
* Nationally, the unemployment rate for native-born blacks with less than a high school education is 28.8 percent. Their U-6 measure is 42.2 percent.
* The unemployment rate for young native-born blacks (18-29) with only a high school education is 27.1 percent. Their U-6 measure is 39.8 percent.
* Nationally, the unemployment rate for native-born Hispanics with less than a high school education is 23.2 percent. Their U-6 measure is 35.6 percent.
* The unemployment rate for young native-born Hispanics (18-29) with only a high school degree is 20.9 percent. Their U-6 measure is 33.9 percent.
* Nationally, the overall unemployment rate for immigrants (legal and illegal) is 9.9 percent. Their U-6 measure is 19.6 percent, which is significantly higher than the rate for natives.
* The unemployment rate for immigrants with less than a high school education is 12.3 percent. Their U-6 measure is 27.4 percent. The unemployment rate for young immigrants (18-29) with only a high school education is 12.2 percent. Their U-6 measure is 25.2 percent.
This isn't rocket science, in the 50s Ike sent enough home that most of the rest self deported.
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