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Was that before or after you were opposed to the Afghan effort, Senator?
1 posted on 12/08/2009 11:30:35 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

IMHO, this is a Cultural battle, not a national one.

Why? Because the average Afghani considers himself a member of a particular clan, from a particular village. They do not consider themselves a nation under any modern understanding of the word. They are only concerned about what happens in their immediate vicinity. Are the women wearing their burkas? Then all is fine with the world.

Problem with terrorist next door? So what? As long as their family is unaffected, they have no concern or care; as that is their neighbor’s problem.

Until the Afghani’s begin to think of themselves as a nation, with a national identity - this problem will never go away.


2 posted on 12/08/2009 11:36:42 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: markomalley

According to Teresa’s b**ch, we can’t send help from those already in Iraq, because they are failures who got stuck there.


3 posted on 12/08/2009 11:37:21 AM PST by Gunflint
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What Kerry has not mentioned in this article is what the cost will be for Afghanistan to ultimately pay the new army and police forces if and when they get them all trained and stable.

Which is why Karzai recently talked about how much aid money he would ultimately need.

6 posted on 12/08/2009 11:51:36 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: markomalley

Open a history book. Afghanistan is made up of a large number of Tribes. Some interrelated. Each tribe holds the allegiance of its tribal members. No one can be trusted. Farmers carry their guns to the fields with them. In this case . . . poppy fields.

No one can turn a Drug Growing Tribal Mentality into a Democracy. It’s always going to end up being a Dictatorship or Oligarchy BY FORCE. They only understand the weak and the strong and they want to be the strong.

What the USofA failed to do before WWI was to EXPORT our Entrepreneurial Spirit and create a Middle Class in other Countries. A strong Middle Class is necessary for Governmental change from Dictatorship to Democracy/Republic.

Think about what Africa could be with a strong middle class. Think about the Middle East.

It’s not too late . . . but as long as we have Liberals in control, no one is going to suggest exporting the American Entrepreneurial Spirit.


10 posted on 12/08/2009 12:42:29 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Abortion-Euthanasia kills the very people for whom Social Justice is needed.)
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To: markomalley

A before and after picture of Paghman Gardens, Kabul Afghanistan taken 40 years apart:

http://pixdaus.com/single.php?id=65437

And Sharbat Gula as seen in 1984 and 2002:

http://media.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/mar/girl/thennow_lg.jpg


13 posted on 12/08/2009 7:31:57 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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