Posted on 12/07/2009 8:26:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
A rumor that won’t die is the myth that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is fake. There are different theories on where Obama was born, if he was not born in Hawaii as he claims. A prevailing belief is that he was born in Kenya, and as a native Kenyan, is not eligible to be President of the United States. Some have also claimed that his full name includes the name “Mohammed,” adding to speculation that Obama is a secret Muslim.
At this point, mountains of evidence are in and they all point to the fact that Barack Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States. As far back as July 2008, Obama had released a copy of his birth certificate. Obama had to release the birth certificate himself because in Hawaii, birth certificates are not public documents and must be requested by the family. Obama’s birth certificate can viewed here.
Almost immediately, the certificate came under attack due to the lack of an embossed seal and signature. The answer to that challenge is that in Hawaii, the seal and signature are on the back of the certificate. The political fact-checkers at Politifact.com emailed the copy of the certificate released by Obama to the Hawaii Department of Health. They were told by a spokesman that the copy was a valid Hawaii birth certificate. The name on the certificate is Barack Hussein Obama II.
According to Snopes.Com, Hawaiian government officials have vouched for the authenticity of Obama’s birth certificate twice; once in October 2008 and again in July 2009. Additionally, Snopes also provides the testimony of a Hawaiian school teacher who actually spoke with the obstetrician that delivered the baby Barack.
Politifact also checked Obama’s other public domain records. These other records included his marriage certificate from Cook County, Illinois, his driver’s license records in Illinois, and his attorney registration and public disciplinary record from Illinois. All show that his name is Barack Hussein Obama. He also has no moving violations and has not been disciplined as an attorney.
If that were not enough, Obama’s birth announcements can be seen in both Honolulu newspapers. The Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star Bulletin both record the birth of Barack Hussein Obama on August 4, 1961. The newspaper announcements can be seen here.
In August 2009, a birth certificate surfaced that purported to show that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This birth certificate was quickly revealed to be a forgery. Among the tell-tale mistakes on the certificate are the phrase “Republic of Kenya,” which did not exist at the time, an incorrect age for Obama’s father, and the claim that Barack Jr. was born in Mombasa, which was located far from where Obama Sr. lived. In fact, Mombasa was so far from where Obama lived that it was not even part of Kenya at the time; it was actually then a part a part of Zanzibar.
A further claim is that US law at the time specified that if only one parent was a US citizen, to pass citizenship along to the child, that parent must have been a US citizen “for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16” [citation]. The claim is that since Obama’s mother was 18 at the time of his birth, she does not meet the requirement to pass along citizenship to Barack Jr. According to Snopes, this law applied only to children born to US citizens outside the US. Since the evidence is that Obama was born in Hawaii, this claim is moot.
There is also the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother claimed to be present at his birth. Since she had never left Kenya, the implication is that Obama must have been born in Kenya. When the entire transcript is reviewed, it seems that there was confusion over the word “present” since Mrs. Obama did not speak English and was relying on a translator. Throughout the conversation, she continues to claim that Obama was born in Hawaii.
Finally, there have been two lawsuits regarding Obama’s birth certificate and citizenship. Suits filed by Philip Berg and Alan Keyes were dismissed as frivolous and without merit. The Supreme Court declined to hear the case.
While we can easily see that Obama’s does not and has never included the name “Mohammed,” it is not easy to see what is in Obama’s heart. Claims that Obama is a closet Muslim are not easily proved nor disproved. What can be shown is that Obama has long been a member of a Christian church, although one of a far left denomination. Obama’s family heritage includes many links to Islam so it is understandable that he would have sympathy for Muslims around the world. However, neither being a Muslim nor having sympathy for Muslims would be disqualifying for a president.
After having President Obama lead the United States for almost a year, it is easy to understand why wishful thinking could lead people to grasp at straws for reasons why he could not be president. Nevertheless, the evidence is overwhelming that Barack Hussein Obama II is a natural born citizen of the United States, having been born in a Honolulu hospital. To believe otherwise requires belief in a massive conspiracy that includes Obama’s entire family, the Hawaii Department of Health, his birth doctor, and countless others.
It makes more sense to accept the reality of Obama’s citizenship and fight him on the issues. His foreign policy favors dictators and terrorists over democracy. His domestic policy is built on unsustainable spending that must surely be followed by economy-killing taxes and inflation. To effectively fight his policies, Obama’s opponents must ground themselves in reality and facts, which can easily illustrate that Obama’s policies are all wrong for America.
Sources: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/ http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/kenyanphonetranscript.pdf
Unfortunately I was unable to keep track of the 10,000 posts from last August on this subject. I did remember the segment however because of a certain "quip".
The woman claimed that the physician was meeting her informally and he said "Guess what? I delivered a baby born to Stanley today". The play of course, was on the name of Stanley Ann Dunham. Freeper researchers had it that there was such a physician that the woman named.
I am fairly sure however, with further Freeper researchers, that the physician was proven to have retired seven years earlier, before 1961. Apologists countered that he could have been brought in for extra work.
The public has a right to know.
Are you aware that there are millions of Christian Arabs?
With a good chunk of them living in the Middle East, is it surprising that many would have names otherwise associated with Islam?
Newspaper clippings from some internet site are now legal proof of identity/citizenship? Does that work at the DMV or only for the Presidency? Shut your piehole you ignorant puffed up smidgeon of blowfish sh!t.
“Name one christian with a muslim name?”
To answer your question, at least indirectly, over six million African Muslims convert to Christianity this year. This was reported by no less of an authority than “Al Jazeerah”!?!?!?
I do not vouch for these figures, but a cursory investigation of the subject via Google was enough to convince me that there are many folks, born with Muslim names, that are now Christians. I would suppose most retain their birth names.
My belief is that this is a positive movement. What’s your feeling on it?
My children attended a k-8 whose headmaster was Muslim from North Africa. Among our best friends are Arab Christians from a village near Haifa. We are Jews, but I detected no prejudice from the headmaster, who had an Arab charm I've known in privileged Persians (though most Persians are not Arab). Our Arab Christian friend, whose family has largely been driven from their village by Muslims (Israeli Muslims), told me that when speaking to another Arab the headmaster's prejudices are what one expects from the Muslims, about crudeness and blood libels and the descendants of pigs, but the headmaster, as most Muslims, has learned to hide his conditioning. It has gotten worse for Christians, along with the rise of Wahabbism.
OK. I'm lazy. Was it as easy as cut-and-paste? Is scaling automatic? I know there are HTML experts among Freepers because I see their handiwork. Somewhere in FR archives there is a page of html commands. I find it every few years. Yes, I know I can “view” the page source code.
I certainly don't count on Kerchner-Apuzzo saving us, but if a judge somewhere feels there is more to lose by not exercising his or her sworn oath, Apuzzo seems to have enough legal threads to allow someone to crack this coup. An impotent legal system is a likely path to revolution (if someone important didn't say that, he should have!)
Exactly. Just search anything Clinton-related and see how apologetic they are towards him.
:)
Thornton's ignorant blindness self-verified.
I'm from Missouri...SHOW ME. Where is the constitutional lawyer's cite of legal authority for such a claim, where is the cite(s) of precedent? On Snopes? BWAHAAAHAAAA!
Whether Zero was born in the U.S. or not, he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen because BOTH of his parents weren't U.S. Citizens.
Aside from the Constitutional “natural born” issue, little Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, and spent some years in Indonesia. Barry was registered (as a Muslim) in a school you had to be Indonesian to attend. He recently stated to the school chil’run of America that he didn’t go to the school the Americans went to. Indonesia did not recognize dual citizenship.
Barry traveled to Pakistan as a young man, at a time Americans could not travel there. On what passport did he travel? The summer of the 2008 election, passports of Barry, McCain and Hillary were reportedly improperly accessed. A young man who was supposed to be a witness in the investigation was killed before he was able to testify.
Did young Barry legally become Indonesian upon his adoption? Did Stanley Ann forget to re-Americanize him when they returned to the U.S. after her divorce from Soetoro? Did Barry have to choose which citizenship he would retain?
If the passport files can be breached, they can be altered. I doubt anything out of the ordinary will ever show up there.
Did Barry apply to Occidental as a foreign student?
Odd that he left no paper trail, no records of his grades or his writings, except two premature books written before he had accomplished anything, a Illinois State Senate record and U.S. Senate record of voting “present”.
There is no end to the problems with this guy.
John Brennan head of National Counter Terrorism Center (CIA) under Bush, ran The Analysis Corp. when its employee illegally accessed Obama's passport file.
Brennan gave 2K to Obama's campaign January 28, 2008.
Obama named Brennan his DCI-designate and still uses him.
Maybe Obama was meeting with Soviets and Taliban in pock-e-ston.
His travel buddies are islamists now.
IOW:
John Brennan’s Employee Accessed Barack’s Passport -——>
John Brennan gave $2000 to Barack ———>
Barack named John Brennan as his DCI-Designate ———>
Hide Barack’s Indonesian passport activity?
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
Barack has already admitted that he is a Dual Citizen which makes him ineligible to be President.
Dual Citizenship prohibits one from being a Natural Born Citizen.
Which means, Barack intentionally misrepresented himself, posted a fraudulent copy of his supposed HI birth certificate during a Federal Election.
It’s just a matter of time before he removes himself from a position he was never eligible to acquire. Not our problem that Barack was so bold to try and get away with lying during a Federal Election. That’s on him for lying and misrepresenting his eligibility. Even if he was born in HI, he still admits to being a Dual Citizen and provided a fraudulent document during his campaign. One of many reasons he’ll be known as the first fake POTUS.
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