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Pearl Harbor memories still vivid for some
MSNBC ^ | Dec 6, 2009

Posted on 12/06/2009 2:21:06 PM PST by rdl6989

PEARL HARBOR, Hawaii - Ed Johann will always remember the sound of planes diving out of the sky to bomb U.S. battleships, the explosions and the screams of sailors. He still recalls the stench of burning oil and flesh.

The 86-year-old retired firefighter is due to return to Pearl Harbor Monday for the first time since World War II to attend a ceremony marking the 68th anniversary of the Japanese attack.

"I really don't know how I'm going to handle it," said Johann, from his home in Oregon. "When I think about it, all I have is unpleasantness. I'm sure it's not like that now." Story continues below ↓advertisement | your ad here

Johann was a 17-year-old apprentice seaman on Dec. 7, 1941. He had enlisted in the Navy only five months earlier so his parents, who picked and packed tomatoes and other crops in California's San Fernando Valley, wouldn't have to support him.

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TOPICS: Extended News; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: pearlharbor; veterans; wwii
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1 posted on 12/06/2009 2:21:07 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: rdl6989

Wow, I can’t possibly begin to imagine the emotions . . . then . . . or now. 17 years old and having to witness that. Or go back about nearly 7 decades. PH was emotional for me ten years ago when I visited.

God bless him.


2 posted on 12/06/2009 2:29:15 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Wife and I are going to see the Arizona Memorial, the Missouri, etc., in February.


3 posted on 12/06/2009 2:32:17 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: rdl6989

God Bless the survivors.


4 posted on 12/06/2009 2:34:03 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"Wife and I are going to see the Arizona Memorial, the Missouri, etc., in February.

Good time of the year to visit...I think February is when the BIG waves come in on the north shore.

We were there in 2000, when my wife made "Presidents Club" with her company; they rented the entire fantail of the Missouri for a dinner for the winners/spouses, complete with a band and cocktails. It was amazing.

My Dad was at Pearl when it was bombed, as a civilian contractor/machinist, and I've heard the PH stories all my life, so going there and seeing it live was a real treat for me.

Unfortunately, he passed away in 1986, but I would have loved to have shared my time there with him.

The convention was only three days, but we took vacation time and stayed an extra week (hey, airfare paid for, why not?).

We rented a B&B up in Waimanalo, and also rented a little Mustang convertible, and acted like teenagers, just touring the Island on our own. It was the trip of a lifetime.

Too bad I hadn't heard of barack obama then, maybe I could have gotten a look at his BC while it was still an asset to him (foreign exchange student). /s

Good luck and have fun. (Note: don't eat peanuts on the 8-hour flight, that long under pressurized air produces lots of gas, just sayin'.)
5 posted on 12/06/2009 2:50:10 PM PST by FrankR (SENATE: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10...count on it.)
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My grandfather was a Pearl Harbor during the attack. He was with the US Army.

Never spoke a word about the attack or any other event during the war. Such a shame I never knew his personal story.


6 posted on 12/06/2009 2:52:42 PM PST by warsaw44
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To: rdl6989

God bless them, it won’t be long now until they’re all gone. We’ll be a completely different nation by then.


7 posted on 12/06/2009 3:07:18 PM PST by skeeter
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Wife and I are going to see the Arizona Memorial, the Missouri, etc.,
in February.

Color me green with envy.
I’ve been intending to go for decades...will definitely make it
as soon as possible.
Touring the battleship Missouri is surely added incentive.

In case you haven’t seen these before...

US Navy site on The Missouri (click on pics to enlarge)
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-m/bb63.htm

(look close to see the six shells “on the way”)
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g40000/g47015.jpg

(Kamikazi about to bounce off The Missouri)
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h62000/h62696.jpg

The Missouri at Tokyo Bay:
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/events/wwii-pac/japansur/js-8.htm


8 posted on 12/06/2009 3:08:46 PM PST by VOA (I)
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To: warsaw44

My Grandfather survived that attack...When I joined the Navy, he would tell me stories about that day, and the days afterward...When we rendered honors to the Arizona, it was always particularly hard for me...

My first CO had asked me why I appeared to be so resolute and stoic during the day or so leading up to entering PH on our deployments...He sat me down and we talked about those stories my grandfather told me...I thought I would never impress an officer like that, but then again good things happen to good people, and he went on to get his promotion(s) and was appointed to become the superintendent of the Naval Academy before he retired...

PH and 9-11 still bring the same stoic and quiet resolution in me as it did for my grandfather, and I will never forget it till I die...

Thanks Grand-dad...


9 posted on 12/06/2009 3:10:58 PM PST by stevie_d_64
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My grandfather was a Pearl Harbor during the attack. He was with the US Army.

After being drafted at the ripe old age of 25, my father got to
“stand guard” as part of the US Army at Pearl Harbor for a year during
the mid-1950s.

He said the bullet holes left on the walls of Schofield Barracks
were still clearly visible at that time.


10 posted on 12/06/2009 3:13:12 PM PST by VOA (I)
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To: warsaw44

My grandfather was among the first to land at Omaha Beach for the D-Day Invasion. (First ones after the paratroopers).

He never told us that fact until 3 months before he died. He had developed congestive heart failure and knew his time was running out.

As you know, it’s the rule, not the exception for the vets of WWII to not speak of it. It’s my belief that they didn’t want the horror of it all to infect their families the way it affected them.

Altho my grandpa never talked about it all those years i knew he had survivors guilt. And he made sure the rest of his life was a peaceful one. He was quiet and always told us kids (the fighting cousins): “let’s all try to get along, even tho we hate each other”. It was laced with some sarcasm yes, obviously we didn’t hate each other, but we were kids and fought like cats and dogs.


11 posted on 12/06/2009 3:15:07 PM PST by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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To: skeeter

We are very close to being that different nation now. Sad, but true.


12 posted on 12/06/2009 3:21:06 PM PST by mulligan
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To: VOA

The bullet holes are still there. Kind of like a memorial, I would think.


13 posted on 12/06/2009 3:22:32 PM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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14 posted on 12/06/2009 3:36:53 PM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: rdl6989
My Father-in-law (died 1988) was stationed aboard the Arizona but was off-duty and ashore that Saturday night. He was later, due to his fluency in German, French, Spanish and Italian, assigned to the Atlantic where he got to serve aboard a ship bringing men to D-Day.

I don't know the name of that ship and don't know much more about his service as he never spoke of it ever.

I have never known of another person who was at both Pearl Harbor and D-Day. No wonder he never spoke of it.

15 posted on 12/06/2009 3:37:44 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama: The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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To: warsaw44

“My grandfather was a Pearl Harbor during the attack. He was with the US Army.”

Check online, If you have his service information, especially reunions, you may find someone who would be happy to talk to you about it/him.

My dad had a first cousin, also US Army, who was there and went on to Africa. They got overrun and he was behind enemy lines for about two weeks before he made it out... never heard him talk about it until a year or two before his stroke.


16 posted on 12/06/2009 4:05:42 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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My uncle had severe shell shock from the Battle of the Bulge (would hit the deck at any loud noise for years), but he returned to the battlefield before he died, and I was told that it really helped him.


17 posted on 12/06/2009 4:08:07 PM PST by Montanabound
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18 posted on 12/06/2009 4:09:37 PM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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19 posted on 12/06/2009 4:14:39 PM PST by TonyInOhio (The City of masterless men have found a Master.)
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To: VOA

Thanks for posting the surrender information,

I had a uncle who was there, aboard the USS Mansfield. Don’t remember him saying if they were involved in transporting the US representatives and/or the Japanese delegation.

Do remember him saying they were on high alert because of the possibility of the signing being interrupted by Japanese factions.


20 posted on 12/06/2009 4:26:03 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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