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HOW MUCH WILL YOUR STATES’ TAXES GO UP IN OBAMACARE?
dickmorris.com ^ | 11/30/09 | Dick Morris

Posted on 12/01/2009 9:02:30 AM PST by freespirited

The Obama health care initiative will be the biggest unfunded federal mandate on the states in history. It will force dozens of states, particularly in the South, to abandon their low tax ways and to move toward dramatically higher rates of taxation. It may even force Florida and Texas to impose an income tax!

In the Senate version of the bill, states must expand their Medicaid eligibility to cover everyone with an income that is 133% of the poverty level. The House bill brings it up to 150%. But a host of states have kept their state taxes low precisely by so limiting eligibility for Medicaid that it essentially is only for seniors needing long term care and not for poor younger people who require acute care.

For example, Texas covers only those who make 27% of the poverty level or less. Florida covers only 55%. Pennsylvania covers only 36%. Arkansas covers only 17%. North Dakota covers only 62%. Nebraska covers only 58%. Louisiana covers only 26%. Indiana covers only 26%.

The revenue required to bring these states up to the 133% level in the Senate bill or the 150% level in the House would be enormous. Even California only covers up to 106% of the poverty level.

All states except for: Connecticut, Illinois, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Vermont, and Wisconsin (plus the District of Colombia) will have to raise their eligibility for Medicaid under the Senate health care bill. And they will have to pay for part of the cost. Under the House bill, with a higher Medicaid eligibility standard, Massachusetts and Vermont would also have to pay more.

The Medicaid expansion provisions of the Senate bill are complex. In the first year of the program (2013) states must enroll anyone who earns less than 133% of the poverty level in their programs. For a family of four the national average poverty level in 2009 is $22,000 a year. So any family that size that makes less than $29,000 would be eligible for Medicaid.

For the first three years of the program (2013-2015) the federal government would pay for all of the costs of the Medicaid expansion. But, starting in the fourth year of operation — 2016 – states would be obliged to pay 10% of the extra cost.

While Obama has often spoken about how he won’t raise taxes on the middle class, his health care legislation will require the governors to do so. Particularly in those states with Democratic governors, it is easy to see how the backlash against these new taxes could fundamentally alter state politics.

The following table is a rough calculation of the cost each state will have to bear once it has to pick up 10 percent of the cost. These calculations are based on guidelines laid down for me by the Republican staff of the Senate Finance Committee. There has been no official data yet generated on how much the Senate or House provisions will cost the taxpayers in each state.

STATE SPENDING INCREASES IN MEDICAID REQUIRED BY SENATE HEALTH BILL

Alabama = 394 million

Alaska = 39 million

Arizona = 217 million

Arkansas = 402 million

California = 1,428 million

Colorado = 163 million

Delaware = 35 million

Florida = 909 million

Georgia = 495 million

Hawaii = 41 million

Idaho = 97 million

Iowa = 77 million

Indiana = 586 million

Kansas = 186 million

Kentucky = 199 million

Louisiana = 432 million

Maryland = 194 million

Michigan = 570 million

Mississippi = 136 million

Missouri = 836 million

Montana = 29 million

Nebraska = 81 million

Nevada = 54 million

New Hampshire = 59 million

New Mexico = 102 million

North Carolina = 599 million

North Dakota = 14 million

Ohio = 399 million

Oklahoma = 190 million

Oregon = 231 million

Pennsylvania = 1,490 million

South Carolina = 122 million

South Dakota = 33 million

Texas = 2,749 million

Utah = 58 million

Virginia = 601 million

Wash State = 311 million

Wyoming = 25 million

West Virginia = 132 million

These estimates were obtained by calculating the increase in Medicaid spending in each state to bring it up to the 133% level specified in the Senate bill. Then I applied the percentage of Medicaid spending in each state on acute care (mainly for the poor) as opposed to long term care (mainly for the elderly). Finally, I took 10% of the increase state share of spending and listed it in the table above.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donttalkcost; healthcarereform; obamacare; obamacarecost; pelosicare; taxes
Apparently, in Obamalalaland, forcing your state taxes to go up is not a violation of his campaign promise not to raise taxes on anyone earning less than 200-250K/year.
1 posted on 12/01/2009 9:02:30 AM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited

Looks like Maine lucked out.....


2 posted on 12/01/2009 9:12:09 AM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: MrLee

California = 1,428 million

Because CA is doing so well right now?


3 posted on 12/01/2009 9:16:15 AM PST by jessduntno (Take a minute and watch it: -> http://www.youtube.com./watch?v=uoeuh-EGj7s <-)
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To: jessduntno

I posted about Maine not being listed. Not California.


4 posted on 12/01/2009 9:17:39 AM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: freespirited
"It will force dozens of states, particularly in the South, to abandon their low tax ways and to move toward dramatically higher rates of taxation. It may even force Florida and Texas to impose an income tax! [snip]
All states except for: Connecticut, Illinois, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Vermont, and Wisconsin (plus the District of Colombia) will have to raise their eligibility for Medicaid under the Senate health care bill.
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More redistribution of wealth, courtesy of the obama gang. The liberal northeast is running folks away in droves to escape their high taxes, so now the Southern states will be forced to adjust their taxes, thereby killing the migration incentive.

I guess the "redistribution" experts didn't think of maybe lowering the taxes in the northern states as an alternative.

Obamacare is the re-introduction of slavery in the United States, and this time it includes everyone.
5 posted on 12/01/2009 9:23:08 AM PST by FrankR (SENATE: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10...count on it.)
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To: freespirited

Arizona will not be part of this, there an initiative on the ballot to prevent Obamacare and it will pass. If it doesn’t pass All Assets of Federal Employees in the State should be seized to pay for this Federal Legislation. Didn’t the KELO decision give us that right??


6 posted on 12/01/2009 9:25:06 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok

I thought the problem with opting out is states will still be required to collect the money....You can opt out of participating but not funding. Is that incorrect?


7 posted on 12/01/2009 9:32:52 AM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: Fu-fu2

States are not Slaves to the Federal Government, States are not Agents of the Federal Government, The Federal Government is an AGENT of the States. No State is Required under our Constitution to abide by any Federal Law not rooted within the enumerated powers section. When A state wakes up and reads a little history with regards to their proper role in a Representative Republic we will be on the road to recovery.

The Federal Gubmint has no AUTHORITY over ANY STATE unless the State ALLOWS it. JUST SAY NO


8 posted on 12/01/2009 9:41:18 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: freespirited
All states except for: Connecticut, Illinois, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Vermont, and Wisconsin (plus the District of Colombia) will have to raise their eligibility for Medicaid under the Senate health care bill.

Gee. Do I see a pattern?
Those wouldn't all be BLUE STATES that voted for Barry and are run by Dems now would they??

(Don't know about Tennessee?)

9 posted on 12/01/2009 12:03:50 PM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: eyeamok
Arizona will not be part of this, there an initiative on the ballot to prevent Obamacare and it will pass.

You mean an initiative that will have AZ opt out? Do you know what it is called?

10 posted on 12/01/2009 1:09:55 PM PST by freespirited (People talk about "too big to fail." Our government is too big to succeed. --Chris Chocola)
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To: All

ATTENTION FELLOW TEXANS:

Governor Rick Perry may invoke the 10th Amendment over
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2299225/posts?q=1&;page=51

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Get after Perry, Texans. Burn up his switch board and fax!
Let him know we don’t want Obama DeathCare.

Say no to Obama’s DeathCare.

Send a message; DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS healthcare!

No! NO you don’t, you muzzie pos.

You’re not denying our seniors deserved health care while insuring millions of illegal aliens and while Demorats are REJECTING Obamacare for themselves and their families!

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This is a good organization:
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Facts about the 10th Amendment:

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REMEMBER THIS WHEN YOU VOTE FOR GOVERNOR


11 posted on 12/02/2009 4:52:07 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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