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Clemmons shot [and killed] by police
Seattle Times ^ | 12/01/2009 | Jennifer Sullivan

Posted on 12/01/2009 3:41:33 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters

Maurice Clemmons was shot and wounded in South Seattle and has been taken to Harborview Medical Center, according to a law enforcement source.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: clemmons; copkiller; hatecrime; lakewood; lakewoodshooting; leo; mauriceclemmons
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To: stephenjohnbanker

No wind the 1st hour so I sat and fished but on a full moon ya never catch anything the next day.
At about 1 the wind came up and was a steady 9 mph oout of about 100 degrees on the compass.
Nice day as the family stayed away and I was able to go alone.


201 posted on 12/01/2009 2:48:19 PM PST by Joe Boucher (This marxist punk has got to go.)
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To: BinaryBoy

As difficult as it is.....my faith demands that I pray for this man’s soul. I will do so....as I pray for his victims.

God bless the families of them all. It is they who will pay the price from here on.


202 posted on 12/01/2009 2:48:41 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Standard arrangement with private bail-bondsmen. Been that way for about a hundred years.
++++++++++++++

Fine and dandy. So to play that game, set bail at $1.5 million with him having to meet $150K. Meet that bail.

Shouldn’t have set bail on the child rapist. I fault the correctional/judicial ‘system’ in two states, plus Huckabee for this terrorist/killer to be loosed as he was.


203 posted on 12/01/2009 3:11:40 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: zipper
Dammit. Shoulda used hollow points.

Almost all police use hollow point type ammunition. Many lawyers advise that CHL/CCW holders use the same basic type, Remington Golden Sabre, Federal HydroShock(flying ashtray), Winchester SRT, PMC Starfire, etc as the local police use. Saves some hassle at any "wrongful death" civil trial.

I keep 230 gr Remington GS in my 1911 and 200 grn Hydroshocks in my Witness compact (also .45 ACP)

204 posted on 12/01/2009 3:20:32 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SeattleBruce
And suppose that the private bail bondsman had said, "Give me 15k and I'll cover your 1.5 million"? Or suppose that his family mortgaged their house and did put up 150K?

Do you want to intervene in the private bail bond business? Or is it the constitutional guarantee against excessive bail that you want to revisit?

205 posted on 12/01/2009 3:20:40 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Paladin2
"Long guns" would be muskets?

Light cannon maybe. Like the fictional Henry Bowman "demonstrated" to the BATF.

206 posted on 12/01/2009 3:24:46 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: top 2 toe red

Clemmons had been sentenced to 104 years when he was 17. He had been convicted of robbery, but I believe he also had a juvenile record, although of course that couldn’t be considered.

After he had served 11 years, Huckabee commuted his sentence. This did NOT release him, but reduced the sentence to 47 years and then Clemmons could and did apply for parole. Everybody in the state is now pointing fingers at each other for having granted him parole or for having failed to prevent it, but nonetheless, somebody granted that parole and it wasn’t Huckabee.

Clemmons committed another robbery only a few months later, was rearrested, tried and sentenced to another 10 years...but was paroled again and neither served the rest of his first sentence nor much of the second sentence. At that time, he left the state (supposedly, sent out of state by the parole board) and then Washington State proceeded to do exactly the same thing, arrest him and let him go.

Huckabee definitely granted too many commutations and pardons, but there was a lot more wrong here than Huckabee. Furthermore, it’s by no means certain that any other governor of that nature (”compassionate conservative” or liberal) wouldn’t have done the same, because Clemmons had been 17 when he had committed the crime for which he had been sentenced the first time and this fact had turned it into a big cause celebre among the usual black ministers and political activists.


207 posted on 12/01/2009 3:44:40 PM PST by livius
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To: 21twelve

It is screwy. The system treats the criminals as if they were the victims and the ones who had been wronged.


208 posted on 12/01/2009 4:13:30 PM PST by livius
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To: livius
Huckabee reduced Clemmons sentence down to 47 years in order for him to be eligible for parole!!! Huckabee said so himself!!!

I really don't know what your freaken' problem is in going to bat for huckabee over this ... huckabee started the @%^$&* 'boulder' falling down the hill, it matters not how many people had the chance to stop the 'boulder' on it's way down before it crushed the 'town' below...it was the idiot huckabee that gave it it's initial push!!!

Now, leave me alone with your asinine BS!!!

209 posted on 12/01/2009 4:18:40 PM PST by top 2 toe red (Not supporting a corrupt, Marxist, Socialist President makes me a racist?!? Then a racist I am!!!)
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To: livius

After hearing more and more of this scum on how he kept beating the raps, I was reminded of a story of a guy that I worked with.

His adult (20-something) son had two non-violent felony convictions, but had “straightend his life out” - at least according to the dad. But the dad kept warning him not to keep hanging around his old bad-news friends. The son didn’t listen.

One night they ran out of beer and money, and the one guy says “Hey, Hank owes me money - can ya’ drive me over there?” So the son drives him over to Hank’s house. Hank either didn’t owe the guy money, or didn’t want to pay at the moment - so the one guy bonks him on the head and lays him out cold and steals a bunch of money.

Heads back to the car and says “Okay, Hank gave me my money...” At least that is the story the son and the actual robber gave.

The son is now spending life in prison on his third strike. Seems a bit harsh to me (especially in comparison to so many crimes where the guy walks), but the Dad was pretty accepting of his son’s fate. “I told him he had to be squeaky clean - but he didn’t listen.”


210 posted on 12/01/2009 4:27:15 PM PST by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: 21twelve

It does sound harsh. But his Dad was probably relieved that it wasn’t something worse. Getting people to give up their old friends is one of the hardest things. It’s too bad he couldn’t have moved someplace far away and made a break from them.


211 posted on 12/01/2009 4:39:42 PM PST by livius
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To: Joe Boucher

I like going it alone too. A bit of peace in this mad world.


212 posted on 12/01/2009 7:10:21 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: BinaryBoy
Clemmons shot [and killed] by police

Rather harsh treatment for (alleged) steroid use isn't it? ;)

213 posted on 12/01/2009 7:36:42 PM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

A beautiful Cape Dory 22 I got in Mobile Alabama a year and a half ago.
Redid it from top to bottom and it is the prettiest little sailboat in the marina.
Also the smallest one in the marina and the only one to go out three times a week.
Most stay at the dock all year.


214 posted on 12/02/2009 2:43:44 AM PST by Joe Boucher (This marxist punk has got to go.)
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To: Joe Boucher

“Most stay at the dock all year.”

I’ll never understand why people buy boats, and use them twice a year. Yours is perfect for your purposes. Glad to hear you get out so often.


215 posted on 12/02/2009 4:33:45 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

IT HAS TO DO WITH WHATEVER PERSONA THEY’VE BUILT OF THEMSELVES.
I am a golfer and live in a golf community and even played twice last year or a sailer or a cow boy who wouldn’t know which end of a cow.
Well u get the idea.


216 posted on 12/02/2009 1:35:27 PM PST by Joe Boucher (This marxist punk has got to go.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Ye Olde Yacht Club

(Hey honey, where do they keep the engines? )


217 posted on 12/02/2009 4:00:20 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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