Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

Fox News ^ | Tuesday, November 24, 2009 | By Rowan Scarborough

[Terrence DoGood]

Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And for their trouble, three of the SEALs, members of the Navy's elite commando unit, are now facing criminal charges, sources told FoxNews.com.

The three have refused non-judicial punishment — called an admiral's mast — and requested a trial by court-martial.

Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber," told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.

Now, instead of being lauded for bringing to justice a high-value target, three of the SEAL commandos, all enlisted, face assault charges and have retained lawyers.

[cherry]

I suggest that NOBODY enter the services anymore.....all these years I have persuaded young people to join but no more.....from now on, they should stay away from the military until such a time, if ever, we get a real American patriot as Prez....this creep is NOt worthy to lick the boots of our military folks...

[cherry]

shoot...shovel....and shut up.......as the saying goes....

[Scotsman will be Free]

Isn’t a damn shame that things have come to this? We served, but don’t want our kids to serve because of the cockroach in chief, and his underlings.
I remember reading all of the stories about the 8 to 15 year veterans quitting the military under Clinton. That’s the backbone of the military and a hell of a lot of wartime fighting experience. I wonder if that’s going to happen again or if the lousy economy will keep them in.

[tioga]

I haven’t bought the newest one, but I have read about a half dozen of his books. I am planning to buy this one soon. I have loved every one I have read so far. The guys at the station were teasing me last night saying I was reading a romance novel....HUH! not even ONE love scene.......CIA, torture, terrorism, politics. NO romance at all.

[bigheadfred]

GWB had it within his grasp to make things right. But he was too worried about his legacy, too worried about appearing Clintonesque, to do the right thing before he exited the stage. He left our fellow warrior-citizens hanging in limbo, or sitting in prison.

And now we have Obama. So far out of touch he can’t even touch himself. And he spends ALL his time trying to figure out how.

As far as these men facing a salt charge, they used the wrong condiment. They should have peppered his a$$.

I better git to work before the turbo kicks in. It’s like my boss tells people, “J***S C***T, DON’T get him started. You’ll just have to walk away while he is SHOUTING at the back of your head.” ;-)

[mewzilla]

Related link....

Hero SEALS face rap for fiend's bloody lip

[mewzilla]

One other link, from the Jawa Report, and I'll give anyone who wants to read it a warning: at the link, there's a very graphic pic of one of the murdered Blackwater employees.

Daily Kos Now in Charge of Military? Navy SEAL's Get Court Martial Instead of Medal for Capturing Most Wanted Terrorist

So the man responsible for this atrocity is bellyaching about a fat lip...

I won't print the rest of what I am thinking...

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

Such depravity. Pure evil.

[Girlene]

Thanks for the pings, 4wb and lancey. Good for these guys for not taking the nonjudicial punihment. Here's an article from the NY Post, Hero SEALS face rap for fiend's bloody lip. From the article:

...................Abed, .........said his captors had punched him. To prove it, he showed off the bloody lip.

A legal source told Fox News that Abed made the complaint when he was in the hands of Iraqi authorities, causing him to be returned to American custody. ...............

...........Two officers and an enlisted sailor, who haven't been charged, have been identified as witnesses in the case. One of them gave a handwritten statement to investigators, which was obtained by Fox News. In it, he described events in the hours after Abed was captured in September and held at the SEAL base at Camp Baharia.

The SEAL told investigators he had showered after the mission, gone to the kitchen and then decided to look in on the detainee.

"I gave the detainee a glance over and then left," he wrote. "I did not notice anything wrong with the detainee and he appeared in good health." ..............

And from the original article in this thread, there is this little snippet:

.................The SEAL leader reported the charge up the chain of command, and an investigation ensued............

So it seems the terrorist, Abed, only made the claim after being handed over to the Iraqis. Where did the "alleged" bloody lip come from? The Americans, the Iraqis, or from himself banging his face against a wall (or did he even have one)? Does anyone think maybe Abed made the "abuse" claim because he felt safer with the Navy Seals? Why would the Iraqis hand him back to his alleged "abusers"? That makes no sense.

The facts just don't add up. Good for these SEALS for not just taking this, and essentially saying, "Bring it on". Our military deserves better leadership who can discern between real and petty abuse of our ROE's. The issue is not the bloody lip any terrorist might have endured, the issue is the black eye our military just gave it itself for pursuing ANY charge.

I can think of a few congressmen who have been affiliated with military justice system. Rep. Steve Buyer was a JAG officer in Desert Storm. Sen. Lindsey Graham is a JAG officer(reserves). Rep. Joe Wilson also served as a Staff Judge Advocate in the National Guard. These and other pro-military congressmen need to hear from their constituents about these charges.

[new cruelty]

War is hell heck.

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

Been missing him
:-)

[Dead Corpse]

Apparently not. This should not surprise us.

[jesseam]

This is beyond insanity. WTF is going on??

[Right_Handed_Writer]

Vince Flynn, “Pursuit of Honor” page 424 last paragraph. Should be SOP.

**SPOILER ALERT** If you are still reading the book, don’t read that or you might know how things end...

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

I wonder if everyone fully realizes that the terrorists because of Political Correctness; most likely have their little how to manuals, which they actually publish, instructions on how to fabricate charges against their captors so as to get them in trouble and get softer treatment as well as demoralizing the troops?

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

Thanks. So far the NYPost The Nat Examiner NC and Fox have printed this story. Maybe more I have not looked???

Just like CLIMATEFATE the MSM is keeping a lid on this story.

[wardaddy]

I never said English speaking peoples only..I said Europeans predominately..go back and check....why the lecture on European diversity?

This nation was founded by Europeans who came here for various reasons and who were up until recently 85% of the population.

If you think assimilating them from relatively similar cultural backgrounds is the same as going from that to a non-hispanic white minority in just 40 years or so is the same thing then we can just disagree.

Asians have until recently been such a small percentage as to be insignificant. Latinos aside from some Cubans and South Americans were until a generation ago a tiny minority who were brought into the US after it's founding by land acquisition.

As for the remainder of your tangential arguments. I never said them so why respond. I said the nation was founded and overwhelmingly supplied by Europeans of relatively similar backgrounds till very recently. That is inarguable.

My premise is this: I will make it very clear:

We were not founded as a diverse nation in the late 1700s. We were primarily white folks of all economic strata from Western Europe and slaves.....slaves who at the time of the founding were not yet in the numbers they became after the cotton gin in 1800. And we held fairly steady with that up until the 1980s but with more Catholic Irish and eastern Europeans..a few more Asians and Latinos and a large bump of unfree blacks in the early 1800s which was offset by the aforementioned Irish and Eastern Europeans.

What we have now which has steamrolled since Ted Kennedy's immigration overtures in the mid 1960s destined to enhance Democrat voting rolls is an avalanche of non white immigrants some legal, many not who have completely turned the balance upside down.

That sort of “diversity” is unsustainable in my view but it does appeal to those gleeful to dismantle the white majority here no matter how fractured it is.

Last election for the first time in history a candidate getting 53-55% of the white vote lost.

Why?

because now with so many non whites diluting that it will take 57-59% of whites to win for a conservative if minorities who almost all vote Left come out in the numbers they did for Bro.

I know of nowhere in the world where the diversity we have imposed on ourself works very well. Not one place...everywhere around the globe places formerly fairly homogeneous that have been over immigrated are feeling the effect.

All cultures are not relative.

I really don't know why you went off on the diversity of Europeans trip....that was not my point. However diverse Europeans are they are far more similar to each other racially, ethnically and religiously than they are to Asians, Africans and New World Amerindian Hispanics and Pacific Islanders....and that matters when groups come together to govern one another, platitudes printed on legal tender or not

[wardaddy]

what a great forum eh?

I refreshed right after he post to you Cat and here is a thread pretty right to the point...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2393744/posts

I’m not fighting with ya, Iknow you are a smart guy but I’m just not very idealistic about these notions...and I have lived everywhere just about at one time or another from Asia to Africa and Latin America..was married to a Latina etc..

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2429068/navy_seals_face_court_martial_for_beat.html?cat=17

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/11/UPnavy_seals_charged_112409w/

http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/4388

http://www.newser.com/story/74763/after-nabbing-terrorist-navy-seals-face-assault-rap.html

And it is also now on TWITTER so the Lame stream media can’t ignore this story now.

They will be reporting on this next week in the middle of the night when no one is watching just like ClimateGate

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

According to the NavyTimes the captured is accusing the SEAL of punching him in the gut. (Not a fat lip)