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To: 4woodenboats; Lancey Howard; RedRover; xzins; lilycicero; jazusamo; smoothsailing; bigheadfred; ...
Thanks for the pings, 4wb and lancey. Good for these guys for not taking the nonjudicial punihment. Here's an article from the NY Post, Hero SEALS face rap for fiend's bloody lip. From the article:

...................Abed, .........said his captors had punched him. To prove it, he showed off the bloody lip.

A legal source told Fox News that Abed made the complaint when he was in the hands of Iraqi authorities, causing him to be returned to American custody. ...............

...........Two officers and an enlisted sailor, who haven't been charged, have been identified as witnesses in the case. One of them gave a handwritten statement to investigators, which was obtained by Fox News. In it, he described events in the hours after Abed was captured in September and held at the SEAL base at Camp Baharia.

The SEAL told investigators he had showered after the mission, gone to the kitchen and then decided to look in on the detainee.

"I gave the detainee a glance over and then left," he wrote. "I did not notice anything wrong with the detainee and he appeared in good health." ..............


And from the original article in this thread, there is this little snippet:

.................The SEAL leader reported the charge up the chain of command, and an investigation ensued............

So it seems the terrorist, Abed, only made the claim after being handed over to the Iraqis. Where did the "alleged" bloody lip come from? The Americans, the Iraqis, or from himself banging his face against a wall (or did he even have one)? Does anyone think maybe Abed made the "abuse" claim because he felt safer with the Navy Seals? Why would the Iraqis hand him back to his alleged "abusers"? That makes no sense.

The facts just don't add up. Good for these SEALS for not just taking this, and essentially saying, "Bring it on". Our military deserves better leadership who can discern between real and petty abuse of our ROE's. The issue is not the bloody lip any terrorist might have endured, the issue is the black eye our military just gave it itself for pursuing ANY charge.

I can think of a few congressmen who have been affiliated with military justice system. Rep. Steve Buyer was a JAG officer in Desert Storm. Sen. Lindsey Graham is a JAG officer(reserves). Rep. Joe Wilson also served as a Staff Judge Advocate in the National Guard. These and other pro-military congressmen need to hear from their constituents about these charges.
489 posted on 11/25/2009 6:05:13 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Girlene

Thanks. So far the NYPost The Nat Examiner NC and Fox have printed this story. Maybe more I have not looked???

Just like CLIMATEFATE the MSM is keeping a lid on this story.


496 posted on 11/25/2009 6:46:16 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Girlene; 444Flyer; mojitojoe; MestaMachine; sushiman; Nachum

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2429068/navy_seals_face_court_martial_for_beat.html?cat=17

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/11/UPnavy_seals_charged_112409w/

http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/4388

http://www.newser.com/story/74763/after-nabbing-terrorist-navy-seals-face-assault-rap.html

And it is also now on TWITTER so the Lame stream media can’t ignore this story now.

They will be reporting on this next week in the middle of the night when no one is watching just like ClimateGate


499 posted on 11/25/2009 6:55:01 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Girlene; Lancey Howard; 4woodenboats

If all this dink has is a bloody lip, well, our men didn’t do it, IMO. Now if he had the imprint of a semi-auto pistola up side his head...

I’m a wondering if Maj. Gen. Charles Cleveland shouldn’t get one of those nice Yellow service ribbons. The ones they give for peein’ down your leg way and far above the call of “duty”.


522 posted on 11/25/2009 10:16:46 AM PST by bigheadfred (Be who you are and say what you feel: Those who mind don't matter.Those who matter don't mind.)
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To: Girlene; 4woodenboats; Lancey Howard; RedRover; xzins; lilycicero; jazusamo; smoothsailing; ...

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November 25, 2009

Navy Seals capture most wanted terrorist - arrested for assault

James Simpson
First we had Congressman John Murtha accusing US Marines of atrocities in Haditha, Iraq - a blatant lie based on false information supplied by the enemy. Those Marines had to face an arduous multi-year trial despite the obvious fabrication of evidence, and it is still not over for some.

Next we have the Obama administration seeking to soothe Muslim fears about "backlash" after a Muslim Major commits the first successful act of terrorism on our soil since 9/11, while they withhold evidence about the case from Congress and do more to suppress than investigate the nature of the attack.

Now we have the spectre of seeing three U.S. Navy SEALs arrested because the terrorist they captured claims he was punched!

Who is the enemy here? Four SEALs captured Ahmed Hashim Abed, codenamed "Objective Amber" on September 3rd. Abed was the ringleader of the group who ambushed four security contractors in Fallujah in 2004, and hung their burned bodies on a bridge. One of the four, Scott Helvenston, had been a Navy SEAL himself for twelve years.

But now Abed is claiming he got a bloody lip. And the Navy is prosecuting. These people are insane! Give the SEALs a medal for a dangerous, thankless job well done, and suggest that Abed get on his knees and thank God he wasn't captured by someone else.

What I want to see is an investigation of the Navy legal team and the chain of command that ordered and condoned this arrest. This aggressive prosecution of battlefield events, where enemy terrorists are treated as "witnesses" to a "crime" has always looked more like a deliberate strategy to hamstring warriors and thwart battlefield success rather than merely the misguided application of political correctness.

At best these should be considered vindictive prosecutions, but I believe something much more malevolent is at work. I believe the person or persons who find cause here seek to sow doubt, demoralization and bring unbearable stress to bear on front line forces.

Outrage doesn't begin to describe this travesty.

I'm sure this administration will applaud the Navy's efforts to achieve justice for poor Abed. With their superior global awareness, they will surely want these SEALs given a fair trial in an appropriate setting. To demonstrate their evenhandedness to the terrorists, they'll probably choose GITMO.




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531 posted on 11/25/2009 10:57:05 AM PST by smoothsailing
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