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Live Thread: Senate Debate and Cloture Vote on Motion to Proceed to Debate ObamaCare
Saturday, November 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 11/21/2009 9:43:50 AM PST by kristinn

C-SPAN 2 is carrying the Senate floor debate live this afternoon.

The Democrats control the floor right now. Earlier, Republican Senators Judd Gregg, Kit Bond, Jeff Sessions and David Vitter gave good speeches and dialogues on the budget-busting effects of ObamaCare.

Maria Cantwell is speaking now. Mary Landrieu is excpected to speak shortly.

The cloture vote is scheduled for 8 p.m. EST tonight.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; cloture; deathpanels; healthcare; hillarycare; obamacare; obamao; romneycare; socializedmedicine; supermajority
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To: Windflier
Off topic, but you live in LA and don't have a car? I can't imagine how you manage without one there. I never could (ex-Angeleno).

I did for 4 years, got everywhere too, and worked for a living.

421 posted on 11/21/2009 4:01:02 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: acoulterfan

Enzi sounds like he is reading to 5 year olds.


422 posted on 11/21/2009 4:01:35 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: spectre

Give me a time , a place a name , a plan.
They better act soon or we’ll be a socialist shit hole by Christmas. There bastards are moving fast and getting just what they want.
By the way folks you are in the middle of a Marxist takeover of the united states...You do realize that ...right??

.........................................right ?
Hello...yes you ...right ?
humm ok yea I know we’ll get them with Palin in 2012..
haha 2012 you’ll be in a re education camp . Who the hell are you kidding folks?


423 posted on 11/21/2009 4:02:19 PM PST by sonic109 (and...what are we going to do about it ? NOTHING)
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To: ncalburt
Not giving up...just waiting for us to pivot and realize that our aristocracy do NOT FEAR US.

They do not fear robbing us of 70% of our earnings, and stealing the private healthcare of our children, and our parents.

THEY DO NOT FEAR US. Why?

424 posted on 11/21/2009 4:02:36 PM PST by roses of sharon (A warrior assumes that he is already dead, so he might as well fight.)
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To: roses of sharon

THEY DO NOT FEAR US. Why?
Because we’re a bunch of do nothing blow holes that’s why.
There’s your answer pal.


425 posted on 11/21/2009 4:04:13 PM PST by sonic109 (and...what are we going to do about it ? NOTHING)
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To: sonic109

Someone PLEASE do SOMETHING

^
Soon as the working poor get their pay checks garnished, $10/hr will be more like $1.20/hr


426 posted on 11/21/2009 4:05:01 PM PST by Son House (The penalty for Conservatism will be high.)
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To: mojitojoe

How hard is it to electronically sign a declaration of intent to engage in civil disobedience? I refer of course to the Manhattan Declaration. Many of the greatest movements of history have a single document that acts as the trigger event. A written, public commitment to resist bad law is a good candidate for such an event.


427 posted on 11/21/2009 4:05:04 PM PST by Springfield Reformer
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To: sonic109

Speak for yourself. Just because people don’t blow their own horn doesn’t mean things aren’t happening. The Internet is not the sum total of the universe.


428 posted on 11/21/2009 4:06:56 PM PST by Springfield Reformer
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To: Son House
Wonder how Obama's supporters are going to feel when they have to take in an elderly family member because of cuts in Medicare with regard to nursing home entitlements?

Enzi is making very good points.

sw

429 posted on 11/21/2009 4:07:35 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

If the fagots in the GOP had ANY balls they would walk out in protest and claim government takeover of health care is unconstitutional.They need to do something radical . I’ve not seen one of them get mad or come up with any plan of action.


430 posted on 11/21/2009 4:09:17 PM PST by sonic109 (and...what are we going to do about it ? NOTHING)
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To: MilspecRob
I did for 4 years, got everywhere too, and worked for a living.

Yeah, but you probably didn't have to grocery shop for a family of six, or take kids to Cub Scouts, church, etc. A contractor can't haul his supplies on the bus, either.

A person can manage without a personal vehicle in LA, but I don't recommend it. In those few times when I was without a vehicle in Los Angeles, I got physically ill over it. It was that big of a threat to my survival.

431 posted on 11/21/2009 4:10:14 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Where , when ? Email me. Where are these people????
They have about 15 minutes to do anything regarding health care. I have energy , time and some $$ and a lot patriotism to contribute. Inform me my friend.


432 posted on 11/21/2009 4:11:29 PM PST by sonic109 (and...what are we going to do about it ? NOTHING)
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To: sonic109

Precisely.


433 posted on 11/21/2009 4:13:11 PM PST by roses of sharon (A warrior assumes that he is already dead, so he might as well fight.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Follow up on it . Im all ears.
Some sort of MASSIVE civil movement is in order.
Complete national strike
Use the play book of the left .their methods work well...


434 posted on 11/21/2009 4:13:54 PM PST by sonic109 (and...what are we going to do about it ? NOTHING)
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To: sonic109

Most of the GOP don’t really care...a few do.

They know this kind of Government takeover of its citzens will keep them in office also.

Citizens in bondage only get weaker, and look to their ruling class to keep them alive.


435 posted on 11/21/2009 4:16:47 PM PST by roses of sharon (A warrior assumes that he is already dead, so he might as well fight.)
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To: sonic109

http://www.resistnet.com/


436 posted on 11/21/2009 4:17:28 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: sonic109
We need someone like Beck or Rush to go full blown and ask EVERYONE to take off work and hed to DC and fill every street with protestors day in and day out. Block all traffic and bridges ..no violence just numbers..I’d shut this whole country down in protest. Someone needs to go for broke on this and take us to the next level..

Glenn Beck reveals the Plan
437 posted on 11/21/2009 4:18:47 PM PST by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: spectre

Been there a few months..Lots of talk ..some good folks..No plan ...


438 posted on 11/21/2009 4:18:57 PM PST by sonic109 (and...what are we going to do about it ? NOTHING)
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To: faucetman
The REAL cloture vote is to END debate, NOT to start debate. This vote is meaningless.

Just curious - do you think the vote will be any different to end debate? I don't. We're screwed. It's over.

439 posted on 11/21/2009 4:19:38 PM PST by plain talk
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To: spectre

Yep, his shoe sales ‘listen to the customers’ what they can afford is good. Republicans mostly wasted the response, where is the

“what the ___ are we doing here on a Saturday nite? You Democrats have had since January 2007 to do something, and now more than 2 years later your rushing a insurance reform bill on a Saturday nite?”


440 posted on 11/21/2009 4:19:45 PM PST by Son House (The penalty for Conservatism will be high.)
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