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VANITY: What happens to KSM if he is found not guilty?
Vanity | Sunday, November 15, 2009 | rightcoast

Posted on 11/15/2009 6:57:07 AM PST by rightcoast

There is obviously a lot of discussion on FR concerning Obama's decision to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in a civialian trial in NYC. Most of the comments have centered around the horrible possibility of a new terrorist attack against the court or somewhere nearby.

I want to focus on another item I haven't seen discussed... what would happen to KSM, etc if the verdict is Not Guilty? Do they walk? Are they deported? As cleared, are they free to roam the streets of NYC? I am being deadly serious... If you open this to the civilian legal system, what would literally happen if they are not actually convicted?

If anyone's reaction (on the left OR right) is to scoff or laugh and think, "well of COURSE they will be found guilty", then I ask... what is the point of a civilian trial, if a guilty verdict is 100% guaranteed? If it is NOT guaranteed, even by the slimmest margins, then what in God's name will happen if a not guilty verdict is handed out? This needs to be hammered relentlessly to the Obama administration. I want an answer to this NOW and I will not accept the answer of "justice will be served." I want to know what the hell we are going to do with these terrorists if they are cleared. Just... nothing?

And, by the way, how long before the media starts referring to the them as "alleged terrorists" now that everything is sucked into the civilian legal system?

God help us.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 911; ksm; nyc; obama; terrortrials
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1 posted on 11/15/2009 6:57:08 AM PST by rightcoast
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To: rightcoast

He goes free.


2 posted on 11/15/2009 6:58:55 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: rightcoast

With all the lefties in the jury pool in NYC, anything is possible.


3 posted on 11/15/2009 6:59:08 AM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
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To: rightcoast
All have confessed their guilt. The NYC event is simply a show trial to find the guilt of the Bush Administration and prepare for the 2010 elections.
4 posted on 11/15/2009 6:59:31 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: rightcoast

Oh, and by the way, if it wasn’t already frighteningly obvious, you can officially call the end to the War on Terror. Obama has pulled the plug on it; back to the fantastic “law enforcement” angle that proved SO SUCCESSFUL in NYC from 1993-2001.


5 posted on 11/15/2009 6:59:46 AM PST by rightcoast
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He gets put up in a penthouse in Chicago - easy access to his comrades in arms.


6 posted on 11/15/2009 7:00:00 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: rightcoast

Hollywood and the liberal elites will be naming their babies after the guy so expect a lot of Khalid Sheikhs coming out after the trial.


7 posted on 11/15/2009 7:00:17 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: rightcoast
how long before the media starts referring to the them as "alleged terrorists"

Mayor Rudy used this term with Mark Davis Friday, I believe. (I think Mark was subbing for Newt Hannity).

8 posted on 11/15/2009 7:00:27 AM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: combat_boots
He goes free.
I know that he would be free, but what, legally, would be done with him? Would he literally be free to walk the streets of NYC, or could he still at least be deported? Believe me, I'm not happy with just a deportation... My point is, can this guy literally walk the streets of NYC after, from a legal standpoint? I am so angry about this I can barely type....
9 posted on 11/15/2009 7:02:43 AM PST by rightcoast
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
All have confessed their guilt. The NYC event is simply a show trial to find the guilt of the Bush Administration and prepare for the 2010 elections.

All have confessed their guilt. The NYC event is simply a show trial to find the guilt of the Bush Administration and prepare for the 2010 elections.

All have confessed their guilt. The NYC event is simply a show trial to find the guilt of the Bush Administration and prepare for the 2010 elections.

Can not be said enough!

10 posted on 11/15/2009 7:02:55 AM PST by jaz.357 ("If the present tries to sit in judgment on the past, it will lose the future." W.Churchill)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

How can you be so naive?

All that has to happen is for the judge to rule that the confessions were made under duress by a means not legal, etc., and they walk out the door.

If you think this is not possible, I would suggest that you go back over the thousands of words written by the liberals, including McCain’s , on the subject.


11 posted on 11/15/2009 7:02:56 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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Not if but WHEN. Now we're going to have the OJ spectacle right here in NY. Who thought OJ would go free? They had solid DNA evidence!!! It all comes down to the jury. All it takes is one muzzie jurist and he walks. Maybe the trial will drag on for months in NYC it's bound to be a media circus. That's just what terrorists want, a media platform. I don't see any good outcome here.

Thanks again Barry (aka the man-child president)

12 posted on 11/15/2009 7:03:05 AM PST by RedStateGuyTrappedinCT
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They walk free.

0bama then goes on to blame the Bush administration for using college fraternity hazing tactics that were "clearly unconstitutional." "Had Bush 'stuck to the Constitution, these terrorists would have gotten the death penalty they richly deserve." Bank on it.

I'm convinced that 0bama cares nothing about the people of New York who will be adversely impacted by this trial and eventual acquittal.

13 posted on 11/15/2009 7:04:19 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Ramsey Clark will help get him off.


14 posted on 11/15/2009 7:04:36 AM PST by joelt
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

This probably won’t go to trial until well after the ‘10 election.


15 posted on 11/15/2009 7:04:39 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Obama is a DIC....... Ditherer-in-Chief)
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To: rightcoast

I have a few questions also.

Being a federal trial, does the jury have to be unanimous?
A couple “moderate muslims” on the jury may be all they need.
Or, will they go fo a non-jury trial?
What are the charges?
What a bout a speedy trial, Miranda warning, etc?


16 posted on 11/15/2009 7:05:50 AM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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what would happen to KSM, etc if the verdict is Not Guilty? Do they walk? Are they deported? As cleared, are they free to roam the streets of NYC?

Once on American soil they are given the full protection and rights of an American citizen. Therefore, if they are indeed found not guilty they are free to walk any street that interests them. Perhaps they will start a bomb making business in Chicago with Billy Ayers.

17 posted on 11/15/2009 7:06:13 AM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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These terrorists won’t be deported. Most other countries, recognizing the danger of having terrorists walk free on their streets, do not want to accept any of these scum... which is of course why they’ve been hanging out at Club Gitmo all these years.


18 posted on 11/15/2009 7:06:45 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: rightcoast

A hung Jury is more likely.


19 posted on 11/15/2009 7:06:52 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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This is just one of the reasons this is a potentially devasting move for Obama.

Should KSM be acquitted there would be outrage not only in NYC, but throughout the country.

For this reason and several others, I maintain there is no upside for Obama.


20 posted on 11/15/2009 7:06:52 AM PST by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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