Posted on 11/12/2009 11:22:06 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
H1N1 swine flu killed an estimated 3,900 Americans from April to October, U.S. health officials said Thursday.
Better estimates show that the pandemic of flu has infected an estimated 22 million Americans and put 98,000 in the hospital, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said.
Of these totals, children account for 8 million of the infected, 36,000 of those in hospital and 540 deaths.
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But, but, but chairman MAO-bama said 90,000 would die.
Yeah, they want people to get the Islamist terror attacks off their minds, and Obama is making us less safe, so jin up the flu thing again.
How can these numbers be right? They can’t. In July they said not to bother to confirm if it’s Swine or not.
40,000 usually die each flu season. Well this flu season is already months longer than normal.....but that increases the numbers for this ‘MILD’ flu, eh?
I don’t trust their numbers. this is all about fear and loathing for power.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/24/us.swine.flu.projections/index.html
April: “The H1N1 flu virus could cause up to 90,000 U.S. deaths, mainly among children and young adults, if it resurges this fall as expected, according to a report released Monday by a presidential advisory panel.”
They admit that they’ve stopped testing for actual H1N1. There is no way that I’ll ever believe the CDC on anything. They have become a political shill instead of a medical benefit. A bunch of hacks.
39,000 die every year fron seasonal flu.
H1N1 - pingaling.
The actual H1N1 test is only 15-40% accurate anyway.
3900 DEATHES OUT OF 22 MILLION lets see thats .00018%
children are at .00007%
I know two people in the hospital now with pneumonia from H1N1. That’s unusual because I am the last to know anything. If my wife died, I’d probably be the last person to know about it.
Estimated? Can’t they get a count? With verified tests for the H1N1 virus, as opposed to “this is what the number should be, based on the same methodology we use for global warming - i.e. pulling a number out of my posterior”?
I stopped believing in CDC when they started studying guns, wife beaters, and Conservatives as a health hazzard.
The number 39,000 or 36,000 , or 32,000 comes from one man.
How does the CDC come up with 34,000 more flu victims? The number comes from a 2003 study led by William W. Thompson.
Death Rate of Regular Seasonal flu and Swine Flu compared
In 2003 the CDC starting claiming that 36,000 people a year died from regular flu. This number is constantly compared to the current pandemic to persuade people not to “panic” or be concerned. Where did this number come from?
According to twenty years’ worth of “cause of death” reporting data from the National Center for Health Statistics of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, influenza is the official cause of death for an average of 1,263 people in the United States each year. Indeed, the CDC’s most recent official tally of death by influenza indicates that only 849 people died of influenza in 2006. These very low numbers would seem to contradict the often cited figure of “36,000 flu-related deaths per year” in the United States, which appears on the CDC’s own web site.”
The 36,000 number comes from statistical modeling; comparing pneumonia or other similar deaths in the winter and summer. It is not derived from numbers of people known to have died from flu, or people tested for flu, or even generalized lists of people dying from flu. Additionally, 95% of flu deaths are of people above the age of 65, and most are even older. They are people who are already near death from others causes, seem to get sick with “something” and die.
On the other hand, the people really dying from swine flu are mostly younger people, many of who are perfectly healthy. It is true that swine flu is easier to catch as no one has ever had it before and therefore has no immunity to it.
Here’s a quick ‘snapshot’ of the numbers though.
http://www.lungusa.org/site/c.dvLUK9O0E/b.4061173/apps/s/content.asp?ct=67648
CAUSE OF DEATH INFLUENZA
1979 604
1981 3,006
1983 1,431
1985 2,054
1987 632
1989 1,593
1991 1,137
1993 1,044
1995 606
1996 745
1997 720
1998 1,724
1999 1,665
2000 1,765
2001 257
2002 727
2003 1,792
2004 1,100
2005 1,812
Apparently 36,000 influenza deaths per year in the U.S.A. is a myth that has been repeated so often it has been accepted as fact. However, according to the CDC’s own data, they can only confirm an average of 1,263 deaths due to influenza per year from 1979 through 2006.
This seems like a pretty fair account of how the CDC got caught up with the 36,000 figure.
http://www.slate.com/id/2218367/pagenum/all/
This is from the CDC’s website. So when someone quotes 36,000 deaths send them here:
How many people died from flu during the 2007-08 season?
Exact numbers of how many people died from flu this season cannot be determined. Flu-associated deaths (which have laboratory confirmed influenza), are only a nationally notifiable condition among children; however not all pediatric influenza deaths may be detected and reported and there is no requirement to report adult deaths from influenza. In addition, many people who die from flu complications are not tested, or they seek medical care later in their illness when flu can no longer be detected from respiratory samples. However, CDC tracks pneumonia and influenza (P&I) deaths through the 122 Cities Mortality Reporting System. This system collects information each week on the total number of death certificates filed in each of the 122 participating cities and the number of death certificates with pneumonia or influenza listed as a cause of death. The 122 Cities Mortality Reporting system helps gauge the severity of a flu season compared with other years. However, only a proportion of all P&I deaths are influenza-related and, as noted, most flu deaths are not lab confirmed. Thus, this system does not allow for an estimation of the number of deaths, only the relative severity among different influenza seasons. For the 2007-08 season, the proportion of deaths due to pneumonia and influenza was higher than the previous two years, but was similar to the 2004-05 season.
www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/season
In the U.S.A. the official flu season is six months long. Is that about right? So, if we really did have 36,000 annual deaths from “seasonal” influenza, that would be an average of 200 flu deaths per day for six straight months. Statistically, some days at the beginning and the end of the flu season might have zero deaths and some days at the peak of the season might see several hundred deaths. Wouldn’t several hundred flu deaths in a single day be newsworthy?
When the CDC issues a PDOOMA (pulled directly out of my ass), one can hardly expect them to be precisely correct, can one?
Headlines: “Nearly 4,000 Dead From H1N1 and President Bush Doesn’t Care”
Oh right, President Bush isn’t President anymore.
I came real close to being one of them ... three weeks ago
I hear it's a pretty annoying testing method too.
The CDC considers “gunshots” a disease.
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