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Tough Road Ahead for Dems After Vote Passes
National Review ^ | 11-08-09 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 11/07/2009 9:18:01 PM PST by truthandlife

Listening to the debate on the floor today, it was clear that Democrats considered it a moral and ideological obligation to pass this bill—consequences be damned. The leadership is congratulating itself now—Pelosi is already the greatest speaker of all time apparently—but there's a tough rough ahead in the Senate. Pelosi could lose 39 votes. Reid can't lose any. Passage in the House definitely creates more pressure on Reid to get it done, but the slender margin—despite the size of the Democratic majority in the House and all the arm-twisting and deal-making (what did Cao get?)—has to make Senate moderates even more nervous. There's a long string yet to be played out here, and it's still likely to stretch into next year, by which time Pelosi’s historic accomplishment of Nov. 7 may look foolish.


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KEYWORDS: 111th; bluedogs; deeadcock; democrats; dems; lowry; obamacare; schifflist
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To: CatOwner
Screw everyone who decided that the elections in 2008 weren't important enough to show up.

Democracy doesn't tolerate wanton ignorance and half-hearted vigilance.

141 posted on 11/08/2009 12:06:18 AM PST by TheThinker
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To: Tzimisce
Impeach him? That takes more votes than a simple veto override.

I don't see Stinky getting impeached. But I think we should all send him a carton of cigarettes ...

142 posted on 11/08/2009 12:08:35 AM PST by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: mamelukesabre
We are a minority and when a minority imposes it’s will on the majority, the result is not democracy or freedom

We've been suffering from the tyranny of the minorities (special interest groups) for a long time. That's how we got here. Congress is uprooting the entire health care system to take care of an uninsured minority.

143 posted on 11/08/2009 12:15:16 AM PST by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: uncitizen

You nailed it. Exactly!!


144 posted on 11/08/2009 12:19:18 AM PST by Kay
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To: LdSentinal

Ever heard of an entitlement, and how they’re funded?


145 posted on 11/08/2009 12:37:16 AM PST by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The Final Turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Hildy
VET LOAN FORGIVENESS IN HEALTHCARE BILL

Just watched the video. Louise Slaughter gives new meaning to the word moron.

146 posted on 11/08/2009 12:43:35 AM PST by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: buccaneer81

Meet you at Mount Thunder. Scott in ‘12.


147 posted on 11/08/2009 1:05:53 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: WOSG

...and are awakening the sleeping conservatives who are the majority in this country even more! This travesty will affect ALL Americans from ALL walks of life—negatively. Oh, sure, it sounds great “FREE!!” health care! But it isn’t free—the devil will have his due.

And payback will NOT be what liberals and ignorant voters out there will be expecting when they go to open their paychecks and see huge chunks removed!

When this hits the wallets of America, you will hear a different tune beside the gloating one coming from the liberals right now—an angry response to what these people are doing to this country. And that won’t be pretty.


148 posted on 11/08/2009 1:09:04 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: mamelukesabre

Well hell, why don’t you just give up and get in line to get your number tatoo’d. shessh the damn bill still has to go to the senate, and then back to committee.
I am getting tired of all these,” well it’s over, the nation is done” types. We have been through much worse and come out of it.
Don’t try will get you a guaranteed outcome every time.


149 posted on 11/08/2009 1:09:55 AM PST by Airwinger (Semper Fi, Time to use that motto for our Constitution. (ALWAYS FAITHFUL!))
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To: Atom Smasher
here, here

GARRRRRGGHHHHH

The expression is "Hear, hear" — meaning "listen, everyone!" — not "here, here", which means nothing and makes no sense. "Hear, hear" originated in the British parliament in the 18th century as a contraction of "hear him, hear him". [Source]

Sorry. Pet peeve.

150 posted on 11/08/2009 1:12:39 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: truthandlife

I am quite frankly tired of being urged to thank the Dems who voted “no”. I will thank them when they renounce their party for putting this country on the path to destruction. ALL DEMS NEED TO BE VOTED OUT!


151 posted on 11/08/2009 1:14:48 AM PST by cblue55
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To: truthandlife; ex-Texan
Dems which held there ground against Pelosi's vicious wrath, voting 'NO! Now they are on her hit list.

Here's the list:

Adler

Altmire

Baird

Barrow

Boccieri

Boren

Boucher

Boyd

Bright

Chandler

Childers

Artur Davis

Lincoln Davis

Chet Edwards

Gordon

Griffith

Herseth-sandlin

Holden

Kissell

Kosmas

Kratovil

Kucinich

Betsy Markey

Marshall

Massa

Matheson

McIntyre

McMahon

Melancon

Minnick

Scott Murphy

Nye

Peterson

Ross

Shuler

Skelton

Tanner

Taylor

Teague

Source: http://www.politico.com/livepulse/1109/ ... ml?showall

152 posted on 11/08/2009 1:24:19 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never "free")
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To: PhiKapMom; beanshirts
PKM, I agree with your response to the Negative NOOB’s like Beanshirts. They have multiplied like flies here and never seem to add anything but more dumping on Repubs of all stripes. I wonder whether these posters are Infiltrators or just Whiners or something else? IMO it is time to give the R's some credit for standing up as much as they have...in 2010, the enemy has a “D” for dumb & demoted on their foreheads. The House Vote tonight was the “D”s Waterloo!
153 posted on 11/08/2009 2:39:04 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: mamelukesabre

Well , not me. It is the democrats who are COMMUNISTS and implementing bills to take our freedoms away.
We need to oust democrats.


154 posted on 11/08/2009 3:19:41 AM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: iopscusa
I wonder whether these posters are Infiltrators or just Whiners or something else? IMO it is time to give the R's some credit for standing up as much as they have...in 2010, the enemy has a “D” for dumb & demoted on their foreheads.

Well, these were the people who told us to vote against Repubicans in 2006 because they were not conservative enough.

These were the people who told us to vote against the Republicans in 2008 because they were not the "right" people.

These people spend more time attacking the Republicans than they do attacking the liberals. I know, they claim there is no difference.

This healthcare bill would not have seen the light of day with an entire congress full of RINOs.....as bad as they are.

155 posted on 11/08/2009 3:24:55 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: JaneNC

Republicans seeking nomination need to be asked if they intend to work for the repeal of the socialist acts.


156 posted on 11/08/2009 3:26:34 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: JaneNC

We knew the Democrats had a decision to make on healthcare:

The first choice was that they could vote for this and sacrifice their seats to further the agenda.

The second choice was to vote against this and preserve power.

They have made their choice.


157 posted on 11/08/2009 3:26:47 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: truthandlife
I just can't see Jim Webb or Mark Warner of Virginia voting for anything that resembles this monstrosity, after the butt-kicking Democrats got in Virginia Tuesday.

Tom Perrielo voted for the House bill, after very heated town halls, after waffling in front of voters as to how he might vote, and after the message from Virginia voters this week.

Perrielo's toast, and surely he knows it. What's up with that?

158 posted on 11/08/2009 3:30:49 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: TheConservativeParty

“What the hell is moral about abortion?”


What is moral about Marxist-socialism?


159 posted on 11/08/2009 3:33:45 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: LdSentinal
All you need is to not fund it.
That worked so well for Newt . . .

Do that, and you will have to have your courage screwed to the sticking point. You will have to actually face down big journalism, which called it Reagan's shutdown when he vetoed a budget - and Gingriches shutdown when Clinton vetoed a budget.

Courageous Congressmen - isn't that an oxymoron?


160 posted on 11/08/2009 3:43:59 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Anyone who claims to be objective marks himself as hopelessly subjective.)
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