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Major Nidal Malik Hasan was armed with a FN Five-Seven, which is a cop-killing 5.7 x 28mm pistol because its pistol cartridge can pierce body armor.

FN Five-Seven.

1 posted on 11/06/2009 9:50:25 PM PST by myknowledge
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He would need military ammo to pierce body armor with that gun, and he couldn’t possibly get access to that.... oh wait.


2 posted on 11/06/2009 9:52:31 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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It didn’t take long for the vultures to start circling.


3 posted on 11/06/2009 9:54:34 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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With this angle maybe the Democrats will finally pay attention to this story and call for handgun bans. Oh, wait, President Obama isn’t for that. (giggle) So we’re safe.


4 posted on 11/06/2009 9:55:41 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Nothing is more exhilarating than philistine vulgarity.-- Vladimir Nabokov)
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Fortunately, there’s pretty stringent gun control at our nation’s airports, so we don’t have to worry about Muslim attacks on our airplanes...

Oh wait...


6 posted on 11/06/2009 9:59:12 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: myknowledge
He was smart enough to pick a powerful weapon, the .357, that he could use in his dominate hand, and a smaller caliber gun with almost zero recoil but still very deadly, in his weaker hand. He thought this through and depending on when he bought the FN, he may have been thinking about it a while.

And, the AP ammo is virtually impossible to come by. There's no indication that he used anything other than the standard NATO round, in his attack.

8 posted on 11/06/2009 10:03:43 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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I’m not familiar with this gun at all. Do you know how many bullets the clip holds. If he fired 100 rounds he must have had several clips with him all preloaded.


9 posted on 11/06/2009 10:04:11 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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I just looked this gun up and the clip holds 20 rounds. That means he would have used 5 clips. I they can’t find all the clips they better start looking for a second shooter.
11 posted on 11/06/2009 10:07:46 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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He's an army officer. Why wouldn't he have been able to purchase almost any weapon?
And what gun store owner would deny sale to an army major who is going to deploy over seas? Imagine if one said "He looked a little odd and he's a Muslim so I'm not selling him a gun". The media and CAIR would've lynched the store owner.
14 posted on 11/06/2009 10:15:08 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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Any gun can be a cop killing gun.

THe significant thing abiout this gun is that the ammo was developed by FN for the FN 5.7 hand gun and the FN bull pup style full auto carbine.

Out of the FN pistol, this ammo reaches muzzle velocity between 1800 and 1900 fps, near rifle velocity.That is why only jhp ammo is available to civilians.The military ammo can pierce class II body armor.Military 5.7 x 28 mm ammo is not available to civilians.

This is not anymore a cop killing gun than any gun.But it has a 20 + 1 mag. Lots of shooting without recharging the gun, and the high velocity ammo would go through three bodies before exhausting itself, like a rifle.Hasan’s purchase looks premeditated.


32 posted on 11/06/2009 10:38:16 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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An active duty US Army Major was able to purchase a gun legally??
The horror..!

(Seriously? The AP considers this newsworthy?)


52 posted on 11/06/2009 11:18:41 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Some indoor ranges don’t allow the 5.7 round. Have you had a chance to fire one? They’re pretty reliable, accurate, light weight, low in recoil but they produce a BIG flash and sound like a cannon. It’s a little big to carry but any gun can be carried if you want to badly enough. Ammo is readily available and one of the few that didn’t double in price. Quality gun IMO. However, there was one incident where one blew up in someone’s hand but he was reloading. FN blamed it on the reloads, guess we will never know for sure. Still a poor choice for what he wanted it for. He could have done more damage with a .45 but it’s good he did use the 5.7 because many of the bullets probably passed through and out without doing too much internal damage.

The Muzzie bastard must have had at least 5 clips ready to go if he fired over 100 rounds in a short time. If he wasn’t at the range and had 5 clips ready to rock and roll, he planned to take out a lot of people as fast as he could.


54 posted on 11/06/2009 11:26:51 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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I find it hard to believe that with so many people around, he could reload that thing at least FIVE times without someone taking him out. He had to fire 20 times, insert a new mag, and repeat 4 more times. Hard to believe he could do that on a base with so many others around. I’m still not buying the story that he acted alone.


70 posted on 11/06/2009 11:47:36 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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Already asked on another thread, but here goes anyway, Can you C/C on base??


79 posted on 11/07/2009 12:00:36 AM PST by Airwinger (Semper Fi, Time to use that motto for our Constitution.)
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Hey has anyone figured out why a United States hating, Islamic fundamentalist would possibly shoot a bunch of fellow soldiers? It’s a mystery apparently.


93 posted on 11/07/2009 2:33:04 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: myknowledge
THE next handgun on the chopping block of gun CONTROL by the gun grabbers eager to capitalize on the bogus "cop killer" moniker (even though, thankfully, in this case - it was a "cop wounder". Wouldn't we rather have THOSE on the skreet?).

Shot placement rules the day.

Most any firearm can be deadly in well-trained hands.

99 posted on 11/07/2009 5:22:29 AM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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Gotta love a store named "Guns GALORE".

Only in America.

Let's KEEP IT THAT WAY (Just Say NO To SOCIALISM).

100 posted on 11/07/2009 5:24:30 AM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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“Cop-killing”? Are you Chuck Schumer??


110 posted on 11/07/2009 11:20:49 AM PST by ozzymandus
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