Posted on 11/04/2009 4:08:47 AM PST by Ratman83
I understand, my moms side of the family if from the Schoharie area. Same type of mix.
I don’t think the census data will be in by the time of the 2010 election so any gerrymandering will come for the 2012 race.
Oops. I meant the 2010 race of course.
I agree.
Does the RNC and the RNCC have enough money to prop up 250+ DeDe’s when faced with a 250+ army of Hoffmans?
Mr. Steele is the new custer.
Does the RNC and the RNCC have enough money to prop up 250+ DeDe’s when faced with a 250+ army of Hoffmans?
We better start vetting candidates and honing a message today....
There was NO way they could take NJ.
THAT was either misdirection or a deliberate plan by
both the MSM and Fox, whose talking heads really oughta
get out more. I live in NJ, and short of massive and obvious fraud, they couldn’t get CorZine reelected if their
lives depended on it.
NO, I think they had big plans for NY 23 and they wanted to use THAT as their test case: onto that fractured political scenario they could shower all their rhetoric and make their points about “even in a heavily GOP district, the Democrat managed to win”. If they’d lost, they would swear up and down that it was in no way a referendum on Obama’s success or failure, now that they’ve won, they’re making all sorts of related points to suggest the opposite.
Scozzafava finally suspended her campaign, asking all her supporters to vote for the Dem, thereby revealing her true colors, She also sat back and allowed herself to receive several thousand votes, probably split between write-ins and absentee ballots already given her before all the “confusion”. Either way, this “Republican” managed to effectively steal the election away from Doug Hoffman.
All those who initially put her forth, and justified her being there as the candidate , like the RNCC, and Michael Steele are to blame, for losing up there. They are pathetic, vacillating weasels, who only showed up with an embrace once the numbers began to show DH was a contender, and once they felt too much pressure from the new Conservative soon-to-be majority.
I believe it was a strategy from the beginning to get the future Secretary of the Army out of there, and figure a way to either get the Virtual Dem, Scozzafava , or the Actual Dem, Owens in. But remember, there is another election next year. This is a temporary fill-in special election.
HOffman has got momentum that could carry him into this seat next year.
Something is not adding up with these numbers when you compare with 538.com and the below timesunion? Freeper # crunchers should to look closely at the differences in reporting % by county. My other question is how many votes are in the 4 (four) machines (i.e. not counted) in Franklin County? I also thought Oswego was a stronghold for Hoffman. Something is not right here....
Oswego County
Bill Owens (D, WFP) 10,382 46%
Dede Scozzafava (R,I) 1339 6%
Doug Hoffman (C) 10,882 48%
% precincts reporting 89%
Franklin County
Bill Owens (D, WFP) 4655 52%
Dede Scozzafava (R,I) 234 3%
Doug Hoffman (C) 4108 46%
% precincts reporting 76%
Oneida County
Bill Owens (D, WFP) 3510 56%
Dede Scozzafava (R,I) 274 4%
Doug Hoffman (C) 2432 39%
% precincts reporting 27%
http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/19664/new-york-23rd-cd-election-results/
“She also sat back and allowed herself to receive several thousand votes, probably split between write-ins and absentee ballots already given her before all the “confusion”. Either way, this “Republican” managed to effectively steal the election away from Doug Hoffman.
All those who initially put her forth, and justified her being there as the candidate , like the RNCC, and Michael Steele are to blame, for losing up there.”
The Pubbies are saps and suckers. They allowed themselves to get screwed out of a million bucks by Dede..and out of a congressional seat.
Tom Delay was the last Republican who could read a barroom right before the brawl..and hence prevail. He needs to be the RNC chair.
She did not sit back she actually put her support to the dem. She and her buddies in the local party should be throw out of the party.
He created an impression that he wanted to have one dramatic battle with the Indians, in which he and the Seventh would be the only participants, and hence the heroes. The idea that he could be defeated apparently never crossed his mind. Custer sought glory, but in the end, found only infamy.
That “past due” feature of the solicitation letter would be obnoxious and self-defeating EVEN if we had the RNC we wanted. It is typical of them and their boneheadedness to do something like that. I think a collective letter is in order from the several million “Rs” and Independents who want to join or form a REAL political party, and still call it REPUBLICAN, directed at Michael Steele directly and Gingrich and his band of idiots also, that indicates they are responsible for this loss, and how disgusted we are with it. Michael Steele simply does not learn. I KNOW the RNC has received tens of thousands of angry responses from their solicitations, stating in effect, “not until you become the opposition party, are you going Dollar ONe from me”.
It's going to be their loss when they catch the wave of buyers remorse next year. Too late - they had their chance!
Who are the folks who put the “back room” deal together on our RINO candidate? What are their names and how were they chosen to represent this area? They owe the Republicans in the district $1,000,000+ and ought to be made to pay it back.
Right - We didn’t get the majority of votes so the “solution” is to purge more voters.
good thinking
CNN’s spin this morning: “Palin Loses in NY-23”
this is BS!
look up the real history of this district - not what the msm tells you.
I think many will not have remorse because they do not have the capacity to think that clearly.
they continue tho..to allow themselves to get rolled-all over the country...and the local Pubbie pols are comfortable taking the cash and running a “so-called campaign”
Personally, I thought it was all hooey that in the course of 2 weeks the new-bie was going to come onto the scene win. All those polls were wishful thinking. (and I’m a conservative who would have liked to wish it but the whole thing defied logic)
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.