Posted on 11/03/2009 9:22:41 PM PST by tricky_k_1972
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We need more Christies and McDonnells.
Too early in my opinion.
Good point... the polls over the past few days for Hoffman-Ownens were all over the place.
Bill Owens Dem. 62,662 49.2%
Doug Hoffman Con. 57,572 45.2
Dede Scozzafava Rep. 7,041 5.5
With 92% in he’s down 5,090
The two liberals seem to be the only ones w/moving numbers.
That is a huge swath of land that that district covered. Don’t know how “local” that would make certain issues to voters.
I think it comes down to third party candidates still have a hard time winning, even when supported by the likes of Sarah Palin. Each individual has to earn the votes. Or at least that is the true conservative way.
Hoffman can try again next year.
Meanwhile Huffpo is having a field day over there claiming their losses in Virginia and New Jersey had nothing to do with Obama. Well you can’t have one without the other: saying gleefully that Sarah Palin couldn’t pull it off for Hoffman, yet Obama couldn’t pull it off for Corzine.
Yeah, now that you mention it, he does!
Well we won Virgina. Got a RINO in New Jersey and a Democrat in New York. I would say it is even. New Jersey Governor is against 2nd Amendment anyway (or at least no for it completely or some nonsense). I don’t know how Sarah will fare after this. I sorta wish she just stayed out of it.
No more RINOs.
And what do you call New Jersey Christie???????? I just can’t believe FREEPERS!
We really DON’T need any more Christies-Another RINO!
I think that is a good idea. You also might a candidate that is not mute also.
Hoffman is not a good politician, does not live in that district and knows little to nothing about local issues. Please try again with a different candidate.
The Conservative label did well tonight in the face of the two big party political machines and what they did to undermine it.
God Bless all who helped Doug Hoffman get as many votes as he did in the face of dirty politics as usual.
Give youselves a hand and pat yourselves on the back.
Get some rest and be ready for the next battle.
Plus since Hoff was in 3rd when most of the absentees were voted, it is safe to assume that he also finished 3rd in the absentees.
Thanks for the note....guess Hoffman figures it is over.
For once I agree with MSNBC — but the other factor is that absentee votes will be counted in a week and they might be going to Scozzie.
I think you got it half right. The republicans should have picked someone else than Dede, but Hoffman was a truly miserable excuse of a politician for the conservatives to rally around. He does not know the local issues and acts like a deaf mute on TV.
I believe the absentee ballots were sent in long before all the recent stuff - Hoffman’s rise and Doodoo’s decline. That’s why Hoffman couldn’t expect much from that count.
As for the four precincts with impounded machines, who knows how many votes that covers but it would have to be large to overcome the deficit of Hoffman votes given that the absentee ballots would probably just increase that deficit.
Then there’s fraud which would have come into play big time against Hoffman if it did get close. No wonder he conceded early.
If the local R party and the RNC had endorsed Hoffman (as I recall, they did not) and Doodoo had WITHDRAWN from the race and endorsed him, he would have won. She deliberately played the spoiler and the Repubs did nothing. They had the ability to help Hoffman win and they chose not to do so. Their agenda has nothing to do with values.
This whole situation played out in a very short time period and the fight was ad lib. Now the battle lines have been drawn for 2010. Conservatives know what has to be done and what can be done to win - and there is time to do it well.
“This is a big loss for conservatives.”
The GOP officeholder McHugh held a lifetime ACU rating of 71.55 through 16 years. His previous two terms ratings were 60 then 40.
I think what LOST was the notion that outsider conservatives would impose a hardline conservative on them, versus their local process.
Had Hoffman won in a primary as a Republican, he would have likely won this election in this longtime GOP district; but not a hardline conservative district.
IOW he would have been selected locally.
I think the locals said: “Screw you national bigshots. We’ll pick who we want, and here is the result.”
That, plus there is a big difference between 71.55 and 60 and 40, where McHugh was, and the likely rating of Hoffman at 90+.
Hoffman didn’t fit the profile of what wins this district. Then finally he wasn’t exactly Mr. Charisma or much of an orator.
The race was close despite Hoffman being a total underdog just weeks ago. Had he had the proper full backing from the get-go, he could have pulled it off.
Remember too that most of the absentee ballots were filled out before this big switch in momentum and Scuzzy was still the GOP / DIABLO candidate. Is not the 10th Mountain Division in that electoral district? Once again the military vote gets screwed.
Remember too that Scuzzy didn't win. Came in dead last. Threw in with the other side. Did a Jeffords / Specter pirouette but thank goodness before potentially taking office. No, conservatives have much to rejoice from this near victory against terrible odds.
Hoffman is a horse's rear. His friends would have told him that his personality is unfit to be a politician, the only problem is with his personality (or lack thereof) I doubt he has any friends.
This guy is no hero. He is the stumbling, bumbling Clark Kent, only when it is time to change into Superman, there is nothing there.
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