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Is Doug Hoffman Bush-like on immigration?
24AheadDotCom ^ | 10/28/09 | self/Hoffman website

Posted on 11/01/2009 11:07:45 AM PST by lonewacko_dot_com

Hoffman's immigration stance - all three sentences of it - is here:

Where do you stand on illegal immigration?
There is no question that our immigration policies are flawed. The answer, though, is not to put up a wall and stop all immigration. The answer is to create an easier path for immigrants to enter the United States - and to work here - while at the same time getting tough on illegal immigrants who commit crimes.

For those who don't follow this issue that closely, the above is Bush-like boilerplate. For instance, compare what Hoffman says to what Bush said in 2004:

I will work to ensure a system of safe and orderly migration. Earlier this year, I proposed a temporary worker program, not an amnesty program, that will offer legal status as temporary workers to undocumented men and women who were employed in the United States when I announced this proposal.

Much more at the link, and there are some questions for him here. It might be better to ask him about that now - and perhaps get him to change his mind and oppose "guest" workers - than to find out later what exactly he supports.

(Excerpt) Read more at 24ahead.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; hoffman; immigrantlist; immigration; ny23
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1 posted on 11/01/2009 11:07:46 AM PST by lonewacko_dot_com
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

A politicians answer.

It still doesn’t explain his stance on illegal immigration


2 posted on 11/01/2009 11:11:40 AM PST by rasl04 ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" Barry Goldwater)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

And where is Owens on illegal immigration?

In other words, the issue doesn’t matter - this guy has enough conservative credentials at this point.


3 posted on 11/01/2009 11:13:05 AM PST by BobL
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Sorry, but I still like a person that is willing to address situations
and not set on the fence. It’s true, we need immigration addressed
but not the “let’s put down the red carpet” mentality of the left.

It’s not going to be easy but a wall is only a band aid.
I say, give him a chance.


4 posted on 11/01/2009 11:14:35 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS, the party of taxes and death. Is this what you want?)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Oh please, now at this late date we’re going to find problems with Hoffman? And do what, elect a democrat over the conservative we all insisted on? Let’s get down to business and win now.


5 posted on 11/01/2009 11:16:54 AM PST by Williams (i)
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To: rasl04
Whatever his stance, you can bet the liberal democrat is more apt to give illegals citizenship and free benefits than Hoffman. It is like asking who will be for bigger government, and imperfect conservative or a liberal democrat? We are not designing a candidate here, we are picking the best of the two. It's a no brainer.
6 posted on 11/01/2009 11:17:59 AM PST by HwyChile
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To: Williams

But it’s best we get his vow of no amnesty now


7 posted on 11/01/2009 11:18:21 AM PST by rasl04 ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" Barry Goldwater)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
A huge difference at this point is that Bush had no intention to stop illegal immigration. As far as I'm concerned, he flat out lied to the American people. He wanted us to merge with Mexico and Canada to become the Americas.

Hoffman? It's hard to say what he would do. We only have Bush's record to track. The main difference is that Bush was running for President and Hoffman is not.

8 posted on 11/01/2009 11:19:23 AM PST by NRA2BFree (President Obama agreed to commit an additional 40,000 troops to help fight Fox News," Jay Leno)
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To: BobL; william

Ah, the attempt to destroy him has begun.

Leaving aside the merits of whatever Hoffman said (or didn’t say), ANY Democrat is going to be worse than ANY Republican on this issue.


9 posted on 11/01/2009 11:20:40 AM PST by livius
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To: rasl04

Sounds like he may be another Mel Martinez.


10 posted on 11/01/2009 11:20:58 AM PST by fuzzybutt
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

We need fiscal and social conservatives in office immediately. We will straighten them out later on immigration. Let’s work on getting people back to work and protecting our Constitution.


11 posted on 11/01/2009 11:23:06 AM PST by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: livius

“Ah, the attempt to destroy him has begun.”

Good point - and NO DOUBT it’s coming from the same bunch that nominated Scarface. They are obviously SCARED TO DEATH.


12 posted on 11/01/2009 11:25:01 AM PST by BobL
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Even if he’s sympathetic to Amnesty, we have a better chance of stopping it with him than we do with a Democrat.


13 posted on 11/01/2009 11:29:54 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: rasl04

Thanks for pointing that out. One minor issue: if you ask any politician if they support “amnesty”, they’ll say no.

You have to ask him whether he would ever support “comprehensive immigration reform”, what form of “reform” he’d support, and under what exact conditions.


14 posted on 11/01/2009 11:29:59 AM PST by lonewacko_dot_com
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
Should the time to declare and act ever come many will be shocked at the resultant splintering, IMO.

15 posted on 11/01/2009 11:32:25 AM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: fuzzybutt

Too bad we didn’t have the Internet back in the ‘70s to prevent that moderate Reagan from getting elected./sarc


16 posted on 11/01/2009 11:34:46 AM PST by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

So he is not perfect. No one is.


17 posted on 11/01/2009 11:35:46 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: rabidralph

And that’s how you get Rino Creep.


18 posted on 11/01/2009 11:35:53 AM PST by TypeZoNegative (Pro life & Vegan because I respect all life, Republican because our enemies don't respect ours.)
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To: Williams; lonewacko_dot_com
We better find SOMETHING wrong with this guy before a more conservative person is elected!

Heaven forbid if we actually make a small move back in the same direction!

Sheesh! No wonder we keep losing!

If these people who criticize Hoffman and others like him are so damned perfect, why don't they run?

19 posted on 11/01/2009 11:37:17 AM PST by airborne (I'm from an older generation. When killing the enemy was a good thing!)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

So which Leftist propaganda outfit do you work for?

3 days before the election and SUDDENLY you notice this? I smell a rat.


20 posted on 11/01/2009 11:51:12 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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