Posted on 10/15/2009 2:13:26 PM PDT by Danae
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... What is a Natural Born Citizen? ...
“§ 212. Citizens and natives. The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. -Emer Vattel (English language version, “Law of Nations” (1797) Book I, c.19, § 212 http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel.htm http://home.earthlink.net/~dybel/Documents/LawOfNations,Vattel.htm#I-%C2%A7212
Who is Emer Vattel? He wrote the book "Law of Nations" which was originally published in France in 1758. ...
************** There is a great deal more in the article at the link.
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
He is demonstratively and admittedly NOT a Natural Born Citizen.
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Judge Carter is sure taking his sweet time rendering a desicion as to allow this case before him to move forward or dismiss it. I do hope this is a good sign that he will allow it to go to trial.
Awe come on! This has nothing to do with Orly, I think she is chasing smoke to be honest... if she were serious she would be pursuing Quo Warrento in the District Court in Washington DC, the only court that can actually remove an Usurper. What she is doing might lead to discovery, one can hope, but it won’t get Obama out of office. That has to come through Quo Warrento.
It’s good that you have figured this out, all on your own, too.
But, better late than never.
Honestly, Welcome.
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There’s two choices here. Either he settles it by disclosing all documents, including education records or the people will settle it for him.
D, you waste your time with steve, he is an AFTER-birther.
Hua?
Well 1) I am quoting the work of others, I am just publishing the story. 2) I have been a member of FR for over 5 years now. 3) I have been following this issue for well over a year, and taken a fair bit of heat here in that time as well, discussing and debating the issue.
But thank you! :)
... according to the conceptions of a Frenchman who wrote about it 251 years ago.
Sorry, but you can't really consider that to be a legal description.
LOL
Well, if he reads the article in full, its pretty darned hard to debate it. Its pretty well researched, and the references in history are there. It will be easy to spot anyone who doesn’t read it all the way through... :)
Steve-b shouldn’t you ping your list of AFTER-birthers?
Nice comic, looks like it was astro-turfed.
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“This is what Obama is trying to duck”
Please answer this,
Why do the faction of birthers who challenge Obama on being a natural born citizen care about the birth certificate when no one denies Obama’s father was not an American citizen?
Why don’t you and the other Obama-supporting RomneyBOTs just go away.
Well then Zippy, why do we follow the Constitution which was written and signed in 1787? Hum? Or is that irrelevant too?
Its amazing to me that people can actually discount the LITERATURE that was written and that the Constitution DREW on for its language and principles as if they were irrelevant.
I suppose you think that ALL literature is worthless then as well.
Your argument has zero logic.
AFTER-birthers are democrat trolls that are no doubt paid to monitor this and other sites for anything about the prostitute-in-chief’s BC issue.
AFTER-birthers ignore any and all facts.
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I don't like Obama.
But looking at how other judges dismissed the Obama eligibility lawsuits, I believe that Judge Carter will do the same, but I hope I am wrong.
I think that the legal term "standing" will raise its ugly head again in this case.
Quo warranto in DC? Are you kidding? DC has been ruled by a corrupt black mafia for as long as I can remember. The chances of any kind of justice being done there are zero.
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