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Fort Collins boy in loose aircraft (6 yr old boy found hiding at home not in balloon)
Denver Post ^ | October 15, 2009 | Kieran Nicholson

Posted on 10/15/2009 11:45:55 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin

Rescuers are tracking and chasing a "homemade flying saucer" that is in flight with a 6-year-old, by himself, on board.

The incident started this morning in Fort Collins when the boy got into the balloon-like device, which was built by an adult, and it came loose from a tether, according to the Larimer County Sheriff's Office.

The contraption could rise as high as 10,000 feet, the sheriff's office said.

The home-made flying saucer was last seen in flight over Weld County.

The sheriff's office is working the Federal Aviation Administration to determine how to best get the boy down.

The homemade airplane was tethered in Fort Collins when the boy got onboard and it floated away. (Lisa Ecklund via 9News)

The six-year-old boy was by himself on board the hommade aircraft. (Courtesy Lisa Ecklund, via 9News)

The craft could fly as high as 10,000 feet, according to the Weld County Sheriff's Office. (Lisa Ecklund via 9News)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: balloon; balloonboy; denver; faa; falconheene; jiffypop; missing
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To: Since 2009-07-21
I seriously doubt the boy was in the balloon. The balloon didn’t even look like it could carry 40-50lbs of weight.

Mythbusters episode: myth was that some Carny guy with a load of helium ballons gets distracted and a little boy takes the whole wab of them and gets carried away. They ended up with some ungodly number of Very Large party balloons -- like 3 or 4 thousand -- and it took that much just to lift a 40 lbs. little girl. Seems like they wanted to try and lift Keri, but simply couldn't get enough balloons done.

So: while I don't have video and can't see how big this thing is, we're talking a very large amount of helium being necessary -- and it cost the mythbusters a bunch of bucks for all of the cylinders they used, IIRC.

781 posted on 10/15/2009 1:12:36 PM PDT by alancarp (Obama: treat the unborn with AT LEAST as much respect as you do terrorists!!)
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To: green iguana

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I have looked up helium’s lift capacity and found that it is 1 m3 can lift 91.82566798 grams, or 0.2024409 pounds. This seems logical, but that’s not the ...
www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-19038.html - Cached - Similar

Just throwing this out.


782 posted on 10/15/2009 1:12:42 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Las Vegas Ron
This is not the same as Neda and I never doubted Neda, the Runaway Bride and this boy, hoax.
783 posted on 10/15/2009 1:12:47 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: latina4dubya
There wasn’t a kid in this thing the entire time it was being filmed.

If there had been a kid in the basket, the kid’s weight would have caused the shape of the balloon to be spherical with the basket hanging well below.

They need to get the hounds out looking for this kid.

784 posted on 10/15/2009 1:12:47 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: hattend

Kid: “Little Brother, climb in

Little Bro: “’kay”

Kid inside, rope untied

Little Bro climbs in, balloon lifts off and flies away

Kid: “Oh no! Dad’s gonna kill me... I’m gonna lie and say Little Bro did it all by himself.”

Little Bro: I’m flying away! I think I can jump in that pool!


785 posted on 10/15/2009 1:13:16 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: dragnet2

Actually, a local channel has interviewed a neighbor.


786 posted on 10/15/2009 1:13:16 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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To: Overtaxed

Wait a minute — supposing two swallows carried it together?


787 posted on 10/15/2009 1:13:19 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Jewbacca
And I could see a big brother putting his little brother in the ballon, un-doing the tether and then lying.

True. I guess that would be the only plausible way I would think a 6 year old could launch himself in a helium balloon.

And actually would explain why the bigger brother would say he saw him climb into the balloon. I guess he just failed to tell them that he then proceeded to untether the balloon.

Ok, now I'm feel sad again.

788 posted on 10/15/2009 1:13:20 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: They'reGone2000

i cannot believe it! i NEVER watch Wife Swap... until yesterday... i saw this on LifeTime television... and this is the same family! the father is a jerk... yuck... their kids sleep in their clothes so they can wake up at a moment’s notice and go chasing tornados... the wife is a slave to her husband’s demands... she does all the household chores, is responsible for all the equipment they use to track tornados... she videotapes everything... they take their kids with them to chase these cyclones... he hops on a motorcycle and inserts a rocket into the twister... these parents suck! poor kids...


789 posted on 10/15/2009 1:13:30 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Jewbacca
As a firefighter friend of mine stated, without dumbasses (and arsonists), he’d have nothing to do.

Well, turkey-frying season's about to start, so he should be fine for a while.

790 posted on 10/15/2009 1:13:47 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: RobRoy

You mean on a line?


791 posted on 10/15/2009 1:13:47 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: They'reGone2000
the kids have no table manners and throw themselves around the house,

Unfortunately, this may prove to be relevant to the outcome of this situation. It really does pay to invest time in your children and teach them to be obedient and restrained, to be self-disciplined, to think things through rather than just 'acting'. I'm not condemning them based on this little snippet, but the question does need to be raised, and it is a good reminder for us all.

792 posted on 10/15/2009 1:13:48 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: Ramius

Ack... kg, not grams... I’m wrong.

Nevermind.


793 posted on 10/15/2009 1:13:58 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius
If helium lifts about 1g per cubic meter of volume

I agree the boy wasn't in there, but there is no way your number above is correct. 1 gram is about the mass of a paperclip. A regular kid's helium balloon, with a volume much smaller than a cubic meter, can lift more than that.

794 posted on 10/15/2009 1:14:08 PM PDT by Sloth (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the International Olympic Committee.)
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To: All

Police officer and detective have just entered the home...per MSNBC reporter in front of family house..


795 posted on 10/15/2009 1:14:08 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: RobRoy

What? Held under the dorsal guiding feathers?!


796 posted on 10/15/2009 1:14:08 PM PDT by DCBryan1 ( Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: Ramius

He2 lifts 27g/mol, and at STP one mol is 22.4 lt. To lift 30lbs or ~13,600g you’d need about 500 mol, which is about 11,300 lt or 400 cu ft, if I math is right. That’s a cube about 7’4” on each side, which isn’t too big. Now, you’ve got to allow for the structure itself, but it looks do-able to me.


797 posted on 10/15/2009 1:14:17 PM PDT by MikeGranby
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To: AFPhys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBWJXXgaYBo&feature=player_embedded


798 posted on 10/15/2009 1:14:25 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Boiler Plate
If there had been a kid in the basket, the kid’s weight would have caused the shape of the balloon to be spherical with the basket hanging well below.

That's a really good point. I had not considered it. It mosty likely would have been teardrop-shaped. If the material were strong enough to even support 30lbs.

799 posted on 10/15/2009 1:14:28 PM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is a trojan horse designed to infiltrate and bring down Western civilization.)
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To: Master of Orion

My son, at about 9 mos old, loved the sound of breaking glass. He learned how to scoot chairs to the cabinets, climb up, and toss things out... sigh.


800 posted on 10/15/2009 1:14:44 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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