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Fort Collins boy in loose aircraft (6 yr old boy found hiding at home not in balloon)
Denver Post ^ | October 15, 2009 | Kieran Nicholson

Posted on 10/15/2009 11:45:55 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin

Rescuers are tracking and chasing a "homemade flying saucer" that is in flight with a 6-year-old, by himself, on board.

The incident started this morning in Fort Collins when the boy got into the balloon-like device, which was built by an adult, and it came loose from a tether, according to the Larimer County Sheriff's Office.

The contraption could rise as high as 10,000 feet, the sheriff's office said.

The home-made flying saucer was last seen in flight over Weld County.

The sheriff's office is working the Federal Aviation Administration to determine how to best get the boy down.

The homemade airplane was tethered in Fort Collins when the boy got onboard and it floated away. (Lisa Ecklund via 9News)

The six-year-old boy was by himself on board the hommade aircraft. (Courtesy Lisa Ecklund, via 9News)

The craft could fly as high as 10,000 feet, according to the Weld County Sheriff's Office. (Lisa Ecklund via 9News)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: balloon; balloonboy; denver; faa; falconheene; jiffypop; missing
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To: Brown Deer
The real story is the truth about Obama's past! Is this not what we want in our country?

"You can't always get what you want."

1,641 posted on 10/15/2009 6:32:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: glock rocks

Funny you said that, because as I watched this unfold (still in flight) I fantasized about how the ancient aircraft would probably be great - slow speed, fly low, minimal gusting from the props and horizontal instead of vertical (helos), and still controlled manned flight. Get a Wright or Curtiss out there!


1,642 posted on 10/15/2009 6:32:30 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: lonevoice
It's exactly like Schrödinger's Cat!

And there could be a parallel universe where the boy is in the balloon...and still ascending!

1,643 posted on 10/15/2009 6:32:44 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: deport

Somewhere on the thread they said they were home schooled. Looks like they had too much time on their hands.


1,644 posted on 10/15/2009 6:38:00 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Brown Deer
According to a caller to the Sean Hannity radio show, who is an expert in such matters as the volume of the balloon in question and the lift of helium contained in that volume, there was no way that thing ever would have left the ground with a passenger larger than 8 lbs.

I assume you are using this information to try and discredit the boy's claim that they thought he was on the 'ship'.

Hindsight is always 20/20. Would you have immediately called off the rescue squads following the 'ship' based on some technical advice? If you had it at the instant this all started? What if you turned out wrong?

There were 20-25 mph winds, with higher gusts. I have seen planes that were tied to stakes buried in concrete take off and fly (albeit not very far).

1,645 posted on 10/15/2009 6:40:31 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: AuH2ORepublican; DCBryan1; Fudd Fan
I believe the correct phrase is “HOLY MACKEREL.” : )

"HOLY CARP!" is a Fudd Fan classic. ;)
1,646 posted on 10/15/2009 6:40:35 PM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: PhiKapMom

Part of the reason that we homeschool is to give our kids a little time on their hands to explore what they want to explore. So many kids need a blackberry to organize their day.

Of course, I told my kids that if any of them ever let our 20 foot helium balloon loose and then hid in the attic, then I will kill them to make an example of them for the other children! LOL!


1,647 posted on 10/15/2009 6:42:45 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: AFPhys

Where are your numbers? Ir;s been more than 1 hour...


1,648 posted on 10/15/2009 6:44:06 PM PDT by babygene
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

LOL!!! That is too funny!


1,649 posted on 10/15/2009 6:46:17 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: babygene

There still crunching the numbers.


1,650 posted on 10/15/2009 6:46:30 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

They’re ....lol


1,651 posted on 10/15/2009 6:47:21 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: socialismislost

Also, the dad instead of calling 911 immeditely to locate his boy, called the FAA. Strange?


1,652 posted on 10/15/2009 6:49:53 PM PDT by Palladin (ACORN is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

He just said to his parents on Wolf Blitzer “You guys said we did it for a show.” Wolf didn’t seem to notice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI6UONWCq7A


1,653 posted on 10/15/2009 6:56:50 PM PDT by Hilda
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To: socialismislost

20’ diam => 3.14*20^2 = 1257 sqft
5’ ht => 1257*5 = 6283 cu ft *28.32 L/cuft = 177940 L

(It’s a cylinder, essentially.)

2.205 lb/kg

If 1 L lifts 1 gram, then

(177940 L * 1g * 1kg * 2.205 lb)/(1 L * 1000g * 1kg) = 392.36 lbs

Now, what the structure weighs, I don’t know; but if the man wanted it to float, it’d better weigh alot less than 392 lb!

And BTW by these factors, a 20’ sphere could lift 2093 lbs.


1,654 posted on 10/15/2009 6:57:14 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Palladin

Not unless you are insisting on finding it strange. Did he know his son was missing at that point? He called the FAA to report that his balloon was released into the air. Makes perfect sense. Within minutes, 911 was called


1,655 posted on 10/15/2009 6:57:39 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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To: rdl6989

My husband suggested tying the “UFO” in with LOOTER GUY.


1,656 posted on 10/15/2009 6:59:20 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Hilda

OH WOW! The mom said “no” to him. The dad seemed to ignore it.


1,657 posted on 10/15/2009 7:00:59 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: deport

Our local news reported that there was no school today.


1,658 posted on 10/15/2009 7:02:32 PM PDT by Hischild
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To: potlatch
Laughter here too...I didn't find out until all my kids were adults that when the boys were late getting home, they'd throw stones at my daughter bedroom window, she'd open her window and they would climb up the chimney to the overhang and she'd let them in...

I had a rule when they turned 18, I worked afternoons at the hospital, got home at midnight and went to bed a 2am...The boys had a key to the bottom lock, but not the top lock....Only hubby and I had that key...If you were not home by 2, sleep in your car.....I would lock the top lock. you best not wake either of us up.....She is the youngest of 5. Has 4 older brothers.....Glad I didn't know all the stuff that went on...

1,659 posted on 10/15/2009 7:04:16 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: deport; All

The kids were at home for a teacher workday.

This article does a good job of explaining what happened. I am sure some on here still say it was all one big scam, but I am inclined to believe the cops here who probably have a knack for telling whether it was BS or not.

Apparently the older boy thought he was still in the balloon because the dad scolded the younger son for getting in the basket earlier. The younger son ran off and hid, and that’s when they thought he was in the balloon when it went off.

“A 6-year-old boy was found hiding in a cardboard box in his family’s garage Thursday after being feared aboard a homemade helium balloon that hurtled 50 miles through the sky on live television.

The discovery marked a bizarre end to a saga that started when the giant silvery balloon floated away from the family’s yard Thursday morning, sparking a frantic rescue operation that involved military helicopters and briefly halted some departures from Denver International Airport.

Then, more than two hours after the balloon gently touched down in a field with no sign of the boy, Sheriff Jim Alderden turned to reporters during a news conference, gave a thumbs up and said 6-year-old Falcon Heene was “at the house.”

“Apparently he’s been there the whole time,” he said.

The boy’s father, Richard Heene, said the family was tinkering with the balloon Thursday and that he scolded Falcon for getting inside a compartment on the craft.

He said Falcon’s brother saw him inside the compartment and that’s why they thought he was aboard the balloon when it launched.

But the boy had fled to the garage, climbing a pole into the rafters and hiding in a cardboard box, at some point after the scolding. He was never in the balloon during its two-hour, 50-mile journey through two counties. “I yelled at him. I’m really sorry I yelled at him,” Heene said, choking up and hugging Falcon to him during a news conference.

“I was in the attic and he scared me because he yelled at me,” Falcon said. “That’s why I went in the attic.”

Heene said the balloon wasn’t tethered properly, and “it was a mishap. I’m not going to lay blame on anybody.”

The boys’ parents are storm chasers who appeared twice in the ABC reality show “Wife Swap,” most recently in March.

Richard Heene adamantly denied the notion that the whole thing was a big publicity stunt. “That’s horrible after the crap we just went through. No.”

The sheriff said he would meet with investigators on Friday to see if the case warranted further investigation.

“As this point there’s no indication that this was a hoax,” Alderden said.

The flying saucer-like craft tipped precariously at times before gliding to the ground in a dirt field 12 miles northeast of Denver International Airport. Sheriff’s deputies secured it to keep it in place, tossing shovelfuls of dirt on one edge.

With the child nowhere in sight, investigators searched the balloon’s path. Several people reported seeing something fall from the craft while it was in the air, and yellow crime-scene tape was placed around the home.

Neighbor Bob Licko, 65, said he was leaving home when he heard commotion in the backyard of the family. He said he saw two boys on the roof with a camera, commenting about their brother.

“One of the boys yelled to me that his brother was way up in the air,” Licko said.

Licko said the boy’s mother seemed distraught and that the boy’s father was running around the house.

Licko said he didn’t believe any hoax was involved.

“Based on what I witnessed in the backyard in the morning with the parents, I don’t think that’s the case,” Licko said. “They’re better actors than I thought they were if that’s the case.”

In a 2007 interview with The Denver Post, Richard Heene described becoming a storm chaser after a tornado ripped off a roof where he was working as a contractor and said he once flew a plane around Hurricane Wilma’s perimeter in 2005.

Pursuing bad weather was a family activity with the children coming along as the father sought evidence to prove his theory that rotating storms create their own magnetic fields.

Although Richard said he has no specialized training, they had a computer tracking system in their car and a special motorcycle.

While the balloon was airborne, Colorado Army National Guard sent a UH-58 Kiowa helicopter and a Black Hawk UH-60 to try to rescue the boy, possibly by lowering someone to the balloon. They also were working with pilots of ultralight aircraft on the possibility of putting weights on the homemade craft to weigh it down.

Alderden said he didn’t have an estimate of how much the search cost. Capt. Troy Brown said the Black Hawk helicopter was in the air for nearly three hours, and the Kiowa helicopter was airborne for about one hour. The Black Hawk costs about $4,600 an hour to fly, and the Kiowa is $700 an hour, Brown said.

Col. Chris Petty, one of the pilots aboard the Black Hawk, said he was thrilled the boy was OK.

Asked what he would say to the 6-year-old if he saw him, Petty said: “I’m really glad you’re alive, I’m very thankful, but I’d sure like to know the rest of the story.”

The episode led to a brief shutdown of northbound departures from one of the nation’s busiest airports between 1 p.m. and 1:15 p.m. MDT, said Lyle Burrington, the National Air Traffic Controllers Association representative at the Federal Aviation Administration’s radar center in Longmont, Colo. The balloon was about 15 miles northwest of the airport at that time.

Before the departure shutdown, controllers had been routing planes away from the balloon, Burrington said.

The Poudre School District in Fort Collins, where the boys attend, did not have classes for elementary schools Thursday because of a teacher work day.

Jason Humbert said he was in a field checking on an oil well when he found himself surrounded by police who had been chasing the balloon.

“It looked like an alien spaceship you see in those old, old movies. You know, those black-and-white ones. It came down softly,” Humbert said. “I asked a police officer if the boy was OK and he said there was no one in it.”


1,660 posted on 10/15/2009 7:04:38 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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